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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Carlo Ansermino[edit]

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 03:27, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Italy. Joeykai (talk) 03:27, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Looks like a permastub. Article has existed in mainspace since 2013 and is still a stub with minimal content. ~XyNq^t_c 05:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think being a stub alone is enough justification for deletion. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete there are not enough indepdent secondary sources providing significant coverage to justify this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:07, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 19:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Ping Nehme1499 and Dr Salvus I don't think those delete votes above are helpful and I doubt they done a true WP:BEFORE. My gut is telling me there is far more out there for this Italian player and should easily be passing WP:GNG. Govvy (talk) 21:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found his birth and death dates here. But there is barely anything online. It's possible that newspapers at the time might have spoken a bit about him (though, with only a handful of appearances I'm not 100% sure). Nehme₁₄₉₉ 22:08, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Simular to [1], it's more his career, before after. I found [2] transfermarkt, but people don't like transfermarkt, but it seems to be sourced from somewhere, can't see why it's out of the blue! I would have thought contacting the club historians at the club might yield what sources too look into. I've done that with Tottenham Hotspur players. Govvy (talk) 23:17, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am completely at odds with this nomination there is not a lot of sourcing out there to access online, but the information that is around shows us that Carlo Ansermino played for one of the best clubs in Italy, that being Juventus for one whole season. He played more games for Juventus than that what is recorded on the article and he has mentions from what I could see in two separate published books. One being one on Juve players, the other on Italian league players. Then we have a career where he spent over five years with one club (Alessandria) on two separate spells. That seems harder to find information, but the club were playing in the top tier at the time. I am sure he would of had mentions in a possible book associated with the club, newspapers at the time. WP:OFFLINESOURCES surely exist for this player. I am a true believer in research needs to be done, and I don't think the nominator, or the delete votes above will do any of that. It would be completely unfair to delete this on a whim, that would take away any chance for a future person to come across this article and decide to do the homework to find those sources. But what the hell are stubs for if not for that. This is just stub annihilation. Govvy (talk) 09:47, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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