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The result was no consensus. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 01:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clint Eastwood in popular culture

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Delete - another unreferenced trivia-heavy listing of every time someone mentions Clint Eastwood or says something that Eastwood or one of the characters he played supposedly said or says or does something that in the opinion of whatever random editor happens to see it is vaguely reminiscent of something that Eastwood or one of his characters said or did. Wikipedia is not a repository of every time anyone on TV or the movies says "Clint Eastwood" or squints. See this recent AFD for a similar trivia list which was deleted. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 15:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree fully with the nomination. This article as currently written isn't encyclopedic at all; rather it's just a trivia list of every namedrop and implied reference to Clint Eastwood that could be found. A well-written article on this topic may benefit the encyclopedia, but that wouldn't contain any of this material as 99% of it appears to be uncited original research. Them From Space 16:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- So you agree, then, that the article could benefit from cleanup? Jclemens (talk) 00:07, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - This article? No. What is presented can only benefit from deletion. An entirely new article built from the ground up that is not a triviafarm may be welcomed, but I would rather delete this and have a caring editor start it over from scratch than keep any of the trivia around. A redirect to the parent article may be welcome until this caring editor comes along. Them From Space 00:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It does seem like rather an odd idea for an article. The question that immediately comes to mind is what part of Clint Eastwood does it leave that is not in popular culture. (The edit history tells us that this is — alas! — yet another case of sweeping unwanted content under the rug.) Uncle G (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:IPC. No need to merge content back into Clint Eastwood, as there's plenty of room for an article on these. Each entry is implicitly sourced to its own primary source, but making those references explicit wouldn't hurt. Jclemens (talk) 17:59, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IPC is an essay, not a policy or guideline. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and ruthless prune, or merge a bit back into Eastwood. 90% of it is garbage, but there's enough (e.g. Stephen King, Jeremy Bulloch/Boba Fett) worth keeping. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of those items is sourced, and since they both initiated in the Eastwood article, if sourcing can be found they can be restored from the history with no merge or redirect required. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 21:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A major popular cultural figure, and the article is in general adequately sourced. DGG ( talk ) 00:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious to know how an article on eBay which is based on our article about the film Dirty Harry qualifies as a reliable source. I have the same curiosity about how the article's only other source, an article on a blog that describes itself as an open forum that takes content from anyone meets those criteria. Eastwood's status as a pop culture figure does not make an indiscriminate list of every single mention of anything that reminds an editor — based on nothing but his or her personal opinion — of Eastwood, an Eastwood character or something that sounds like something Eastwood or one of his characters might have said or might possibly be a reference to Eastwood an encyclopedic article. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Clint Eastwood played a major role In American Movie History. Adding this information to the main Clint Eastwood article might cause it to be cluttered. I would suggest to re-write this article to make it sound more like a Wikipedia article. LibertyNT ( talk ) 10:31 29 July 2010 (CDT) —Preceding undated comment added 03:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

So then, not relying on any reliable sources, just saying "Clint Eastwood is important and that means collecting every time his name is said is also important." Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 03:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete- this is the most awful cruft imaginable. The "sources" are hopelessly inadequate (a blog and stuff ripped off of Wikipedia), and the "article" itself is just a dodgy list of times Mr. Eastwood has been mentioned in various places. This "article" fails WP:V through having precisely zero usable sources, WP:OR and WP:SYNTH by dint of the fact that you can't just cobble together a bunch of random passing mentions and declare that to be an encyclopedia topic, WP:FANCRUFT because- well, just read the "article" and WP:TRIVIA. This "article" looks like it got lost on its way to TvTropes. Reyk _YO! 06:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.