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The result was delete as failing WP:N due to lack of reliable sources which can be used to verify independent notability. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 07:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dorina Pineda

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This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 17:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete. Not every character in a soap opera is notable. No reliable third party sources, no references, no real world information in general, no nothing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 18:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 18:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or merge to Bituing Walang Ningning. ~~Totally unsourced.~~ Not notable outside that universe. The merge inproves Wiki Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Not every character is notable, but she's the lead character in a very major series (not that one would guess either from the nomination. The article asserts that this particular role in this particular series was of special importance outside the series itself , which, if adequately documented, would be enough for notability even for those who don'tt hink that in-fiction notability is possible. DGG (talk) 00:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep and recommend TTN and Magioladitus actually find and sources for a change.--63.3.1.2 (talk) 14:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that the fate of "Dorina Pineda" and the soap is strongly connected. Is it any chance to find some information that we should not include in the soap opera article but only in the character's? Would that information be enough to have a different article? The soap opera article needs clean up itself as well. I think a section to that article about "Dorina" is enough. We could convert to redirect instead of deleting. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and include pertinent information in Bituing Walang Ningning which already has plot summary relating to this character, and/or Sharon Cuneta which already discusses the actress' career. The article does not indicate any notable discussion of the significance of this particular fictional character. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep [1] shows sources exist. Also [2] may have something of interest. At the least merge all of these characters from the show into a characters list. More than enough total notability for that. Hobit (talk) 23:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So are just giving links about the show, that contain short summaries from the plot. This means the show is notable but this is not implied for the character as an individual work of art. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But enough sources to merge into a character list at the very least. "Plot rehashing" is a valid source.... Hobit (talk) 02:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sources, no established notability, no real-world information, simply plot rehashing. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 08:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. per nom. --Klein zach 08:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The nine hits on google news do not establish notability. Themfromspace (talk) 17:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per DGG, Hobit. Main character of series and sources exist. Edward321 (talk) 23:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.