The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tim Song (talk) 01:50, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eksman[edit]

oh well fml

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I cannot find any relevant discussion in reliable sources of this BLP of a musician. I can verify that he probably exists (see this), but that's it. I went through the article and found nothing but unverifiable claims, plus some IP vandalism. Drmies (talk) 18:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I see event announcements in Birmingham. Possibly some local notability but there's a dearth of coverage in reliables sources. -- Whpq (talk) 16:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I tried to combat IP vandalism on this article, but it was impossible to tell fact from fiction due to the lack a reliable sources. Grim²³ ★ 04:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added references to the article therefore it doesn't need to be deleted. 05fallont 09:30, 20 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Comment - None of the sourcing in the article is what could be deemed reliable. The interview listed is from a site which tells ouy "Anyone can add an article to DontStayIn - click here to add your own!". Discogs is a "user-built database containing information on artists, labels, and their recordings". Rolldabeats is a one man show which is really again a directory/database. Myspace and Facebook being his own sites aren't useful for establishing notability. Nor is that fact that his music is available for sale via download breakbeat notable. Winning the Drum and Bass Awards might be bnotable if it is a be a notable award, but from what I can see, it isn't. -- Whpq (talk) 11:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a reference from his booking agents happy? And it does seem a bit ironic that you are telling me anyone can add an article, when anyone can add an article to wikipedia. I think it is enough proof and it is clear of his existance. The only reason there are a lack of sources is because the music is so underground and has not been adopted by the mainstream. And yes the NATIONAL Drum and Bass Awards are the OFFICIAL awards of drum and bass so they are quite clearly reliable and notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.196.45 (talk)

Reply - I don;t know what you mean by getting a reference from his booking agent. And regardless, it's hardly an independent sources. You may be surprised, but yes, Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source. -- Whpq (talk) 21:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Booking agents e.g. the people who you contact to book the artist. 05fallont 22:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Reply - How is that helpful? We are looking for independent reliable sources covering Eksman. His booking agent is hardly that. -- Whpq (talk) 01:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I give up with you. How you can get any more reliable than the people who work from day to day with the artist? Your problem is you just won't accept that i'm right. 05fallont 20:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.10.40 (talk) [reply]

Reply - Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources is what is being looked for. There was a link to this guideline earlier, but perhaps you missed it. Wikipedia:Independent sources is an essay which may also help understand what is being requested. I hope this helps you understand the type sourcing being requested. -- Whpq (talk) 20:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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