- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. I discounted the sockpuppetry. I advise our unregistered friends to familiarise themselves with the policies and guidelines of the English Wikipedia, in particular the need for evidence from reliable and independent sources to show that the topic has gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
H.R. Economic Model
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Economic theory lacks breadth of coverage- all sources are related to its creator. Merging may be an alternative, if a suitable target can be found. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn by nominator, due to improvements MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Unwithdrawn by nominator, sorry for the back-and-forth. MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Economics-related deletion discussions. North America1000 10:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. North America1000 10:57, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I myself am doubtful this article can be merged into another, as the contents are vague and the sources of doubtful value (with multiple grammar errors and nonacademic backgrounds). I additionally question this article's notability in the face of such criticism, and for these reasons support deletion. --A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 16:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Which references in particular do you think are key to establishing notability? MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:After adding the more references by creator and as per WP:HEY.Johnson Wagart (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JeepersClub. Spicy (talk) 05:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]- Delete non-encyclopedic: read the contents, sucg h as "H.R. Economic system provides the aforesaid intellectual capability to Humankind ..There are various types of economic systems are available in public domain, Whereas Capitalism & Communism are consider as two major Economic systems. Adam Smith is called father of Capitalism[6][7] and Karl Marx is called father of Communism. " Even if this were put into idiomatic English, it's at the level of a primary school.. There are no significant third party sources. 1. and 4 are by the inventor, 2 &5 are press releases where the inventor is simply quoted , 3 is not actually about the subject though it happens to contain the words Human Relations as do tens of thousands of other articles, 6, 7, & 8 are not about the subject. MrsSnoozyTurtle, please look again. DGG ( talk ) 06:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks DGG for looking into this in more detail. I didn't want to drag this out if there was little support for it. But you do raise some very good points, so I have un-withdrawn my nomination. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 10:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As per my opinion, an introduction of new economic system is a notable concept to me, meanwhile its true and fair statement against Communism and capitalism both are major economic system and other economic systems as socialism, mixed economy and others has been developed from the root of either Communism or capitalism (as per universal truth of Economics). Meanwhile to use the words as Primary School against any creator is like to feel inferior complex to creator. While statements of creator are true, reliable and used simple English words for batter understanding to common man. Although we have to mind the statement of Hon'ble CO- founder of Wikipedia “Larry Sanger” as the Wikipedia taken over by left during mid July 2021. Passes WP:GNG 202.179.75.252 (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JeepersClub. Spicy (talk) 05:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]Keep After analyzing the entire article and its references and the above comments the topic seems notable. Passes WP:GNG.DJRSD (talk) 16:58, 31 August 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JeepersClub. Spicy (talk) 05:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. With all due respect, there is something strange about the keep opiners here. I noticed that Benny Crude, JeepersClub, Johnson Wagart, the ip and DJRSD all signed their posts without a space before the username. Benny Crude is a new user and the creator of H.R. Economic Model. JeepersClub became active on 25 August and is already a quite prolific AFD contributor. Johnson Wagart was active for two days in June 2021, then returned on 28 August to !vote in 10 AFD's in 9 minutes. Geschichte (talk) 09:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, gibberish and publicity stunt. Citations present in the article that are actually about the subject, is either a publication in a pay to publish journal with no academic value (ref 1) or are non independent PR pieces. Tayi Arajakate Talk 19:33, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Soft Delete There is no doubt that reffrence no.1 has less academic creadivili but in this matter I show that first article of H.R Economic model was published in may 2020, by ABP Bareau, (seem as organic article) , recently WIPO publish article on H.R Economic Model at 10 june2021, its truth that that any University required time for P.H.D research upto 5 years and more and valuable research paper may take upto 2 years for publication . Whenever low academic value research paper. Publish the research article immediately. Therefore either we have to wait for next some period for any reputated university research paper or sock delete ( as per decided by administrator). 49.205.235.231 (talk) 17:12, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Dear friends- Still, I am not belong to Wikipedia community. I don't know whether it's good or bad ethical behaviour to post comment over here, even that I am not familiar with Wikipedia notability guidelines, my grandson help me to post a comment herein, With profession, I am being a Economics professor from CCS University Meerut since 1992, during last month, I assigned an assignment to B.A Economics students, on topic, Mankind may be get rid from poverty through H.R. Economic Model, and suggested them to got idea form Wikipedia references. My students raised complaint to me about deletion of this page thereafter I read the comment seriously. thereafter from my side (if applicable) HR. Economic Model is really serious and debatable concept among the Economics community. we are try to map out the actual picture of this Economic technology, even that inventor of HR Economic Model release the only 10% part of information, and 90% of information is still awaited for a public domain as mechanism, valuation formula, Coefficient formula etc. from my side, it's my humble request before Wikipedia, please don't remove the primary source as WIPO link, which is still required to understand the this Economic Model. Whenever another secondary sources are available at Google search, therefore no issue if removed. My further request to Economics community to make arrangement for open platform as Quora for discussion purpose to map out this Economic System. 2409:4053:2D16:5D24:0:0:5F0A:1008 (talk) 18:36, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Without prejudice- From the all above discussion, it's my opinion (would be wrong). HR Economic Model is more emphasis towards Economic community rather than general Wikipedia community, therefore we have to requested for intellectual Wikipedia person from Economics field to provide the opinion upon basics and principles of H.R economic model. if intellectual person of Economics field have opinion for deletion, then we have delete the page or a vice versa. In this rare case, we have to more focus upon material not source. 42.111.0.71 (talk) 08:25, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment :- I have designated as Wikipedia administrator, IP blocker, etc, with approx. 1m edits, joined Wikipedia since 2009. Due to high level intolerance behavior in this AFD discussion, first time I am bound to make comment through IP address, whereas case is simple, a group of School friends, whereas all are Wikipedia confirmed users, discuss a topic in a group, and became agree upon the common point, thereafter put there common point on Wikipedia afd platform simultaneously, and all are blocked on the impugned ground as they were not active at Wikipedia platform, commented simultaneously, were active on same period of time, whenever comments would be easily rejected by administrators. Now discuss the topic of notability, As per my opinion, in the series of UNO, WHO, UNSC, World Bank, WIPO is considering as organization of 193 countries, every statement of WIPO website is administrable before all Supreme Courts, Universities, and every educational institutions of 193 countries worldwide, Therefore WIPO reference link is sufficient for notability of this article, Meanwhile the claim of H.R.Economic Model shall be validated before Worldwide, still any University or any economic institutions still denied with logically, as per legal se. 61.2.16.132 (talk) 13:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Dear Geschicte, Under respect and regards, as per my opinion, your reply was completely illogically, if any logically fact available, kindly add in proper manner in AFD, now it's my advice to you, read the All statement upto initio to understand the ground level of this Article, from my observation, HR Economic Model is not a just Economic system, seem to be is an organised community, who strong believe that human resource is an asset, therefore every person worldwide has its own value and HR Economic Model provide the intellectual capability to valued it, and aforesaid value is convertible into money or a liquidity. they have strong believe that, if every person has its own monetary value, and further utilize monetary value in the economic activity, thereafter no capitalism is required and mankind shall be get rid from poverty, On the other hand, I don’t expect, for this community is required Wikipedia platform for publicity stand. because of, they are seem to enough competent to gain publicity from other sources, example as, this community has been passed 1st Stage as WIPO, and It might be possible to approach 2nd Stage for World Economic form soon. Now a simple question to you, reply logically ,if this community arranges an conference at International level or World Economic platform, passed the statement on that platform, for any reason like as a Wikipedia has been hacked by left or a capitalism , therefore H.R Economic Model never be acceptable at Wikipedia platform, in that case, how will you defend the Wikipedia's credibility, reliability and integrity at World Economic Platform. Whenever is true that aforesaid statement shall be a high-level publicity stand? 2405:204:3486:487E:81B8:72C7:EBFE:EC80 (talk) 07:51, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with Geschichte's comments. It seems that you (the IP editor) are judging this article based on personal biases rather than Wikipedia's policies. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Dear IP, are you saying that Wikipedia is the main platform to diffuse information about the H.R. model? This affirms my notion that the page tries to promote an idea that has not gained traction in the outside world. Geschichte (talk) 14:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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