The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Previous AfD closed as Keep only three days before this nomiation was undertaken. A ((trout)) (zombie trout, maybe?) to the nominator for the, intentionally or not, WP:POINTy nomination. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Incidents of zombie-like behavior in 2012

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Articles for deletion/2012 Zombie controversy

Articles for deletion/Incidents of zombie-like behavior in 2012

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Not a notable topic. Memes don't get their own WP list. Clegs (^{engage in rational discourse}) 08:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Zombie (fictional). It isn't notable itself, being a list of news events with no lasting significance (the coverage is generally lighthearted and not very prominent). One reason reason to keep it would be to preserve information on a series of related events that aren't themselves quite notable, but the important ones e.g. Miami cannibal attack (and I've heard Luka Magnotta in this context) have articles. Adding it to the page on zombies in fiction would preserve the content, while putting it in context - there have been various real-world zombie-related events (e.g. 2011 CDC warning about zombie apocalypse) which should be tied together and this could be done in Zombie (fictional)#Government_and_media_response. Unless of course these events do presage an upcoming zombie apocalypse, in which case they can be merged into 2013 zombie apocalypse. --Colapeninsula (talk) 12:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Colapeninsula. Not notable in and of itself, but probably worthy of a mention. Equivamp, Person Who Is Correct^(talk) 14:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The whole thing smacks of WP:SYN, and the topic itself is just a freak interaction between copycat crimes and selective perception. --BDD (talk) 16:09, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Dr meetsingh Talk 18:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC) [reply]

Delete. Pure synthesis. Lithoderm 18:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Synthesis is being done by media sources such as [1], not by the article's creators. --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

comment memes can be valid subject of an article or list, but it would require the meme to meet the standard "more than trivial coverage by a third party reliable source". -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As per previous afd discussion [2] it was keept. Article has significant reliable news coverage and its too early to delete this article(WP:CHANCE,WP:OVERZEALOUS and WP:BATHWATER). Dr meetsingh Talk 19:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- note that the sources specifically say that the events are unrelated, so your claim that there is significant reliable coverage of the subject of the article seems to be on shakey ground. -- The Red Pen of Doom 19:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC) Also note that "too early" is a reason to delete the article not keep it. Once the sources showing actual notability have been created then we have an article, we don't keep an article sitting around waiting because we think sources may be created in the future. (we dont keep bathwater sitting around waiting for a baby to spontainiously generate within.) -- The Red Pen of Doom 20:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The events are causally unrelated, but media sources have pointed out links between them. If multiple media sources link a series of events, it's reasonable to report that a connection has been made. --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

but the media is not stating that they are connected, it is saying specifically that they are NOT related [3] and that these incidents arent all that special "Fact is, horrible crimes happen all the time."[4] -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Dr meetsingh Talk 19:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Why does the nomination not address prior AfD that just closed on June 10 as a keep. As a matter of procedure, this AfD should immediately be closed for that lack of explanation. Serial AfDs waste everyone's time, I don't care how horrible the article is (assuming it is).--Milowent • ^hasspoken 20:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now per three-day-old consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Zombie controversy — Bdb484 (talk) 00:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep. No valid reason to revisit this so soon after the last AfD; let it develop for a few months, at least, before another AfD.--Arxiloxos (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Brains.... brains.... Lugnuts (talk) 06:47, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete How the hell is this encyclopedic?? What's Wikipedia turning into? 118.100.80.210 (talk) 09:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note the article has undergone major editions which should solve the problem. Dr meetsingh Talk 15:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note the article has gone through a second re-write addressing the issues of WP:SYN and misquoting of sources that were introduced in the previous re-write and the encyclopedic concerns still exist. -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It's rather early for a second nomination at this time. As IP98 said: "the incidents actually are notable. The 2012 Miami cannibalism incident article is large and sourced. This article is also well sourced. The nominator has failed to demonstrate that this fails notability. I would ask everyone to compare to 2012 in Iraq (or for that matter 2012 in Iraqi football)." I'd have to agree with the statement. Zappa O Mati 17:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I would have to agree with WP:OTHERCRAP. -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: But make sure to include bath salts and other aspects of the incidents. CartoonDiablo (talk) 00:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

because, of course, you have sources that connect the drug to zombies? would you so kindly provide them? -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep This AfD was already decided as rename and keep on June 10, 2012. Here it is all of June 14, 2012 and there is another AfD. And on top of that, these incidents are notable. This AfD is a waste of time. Taroaldo (talk) 02:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.