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The result was delete. Stifle (talk) 09:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jamia Jawaril Fatima
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After checking what I could find in news articles, scholarly articles and general Internet searches the only thing I could come up with was more hits for the Wikipedia article itself, some listings on search engines mirroring Wikipedia and a blog. This not only fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG, but also seems like a violation of WP:NOTADVERTISING. The Hindi version of the article is identical except that it lacks the pointless section on courses. It was created by the same author at roughly the same time and this might just be a machine translation. The Hindi version is totally lacking in sources as well. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:20, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless some shred of an independent source is found, such that we can expand the article beyond one sentence. --quantumobserver position momentum entanglements 07:07, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: A Madrasa like this would fall under WP:NSCHOOL and need not satisfy GNG or ORG requirements. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 14:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:NSCHOOL is a section of WP:ORG, and reads entirely as follows: All schools, including universities, colleges, high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must satisfy either this guideline or the general notability guideline, or both. You may be thinking of WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES whIch does lend a bit of support to the article. To clarify my !vote above, I would support inclusion if there were even one independent source available, precisely because of the reasoning at WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. --quantumobserver position momentum entanglements 17:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 21:54, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm still not finding anything. Also worth noting - in addition to the Hindi version of this article, the author has now created an Urdu version, also machine translated with no sources. And he deleted the AfD template I added to the English article; he didn't bother discussing here though I notified him, he just deleted the template. Given the time period in which these articles are being created, as well as the fact that the number of listings on web directories has shot up since I checked yesterday, I think it's fair to assume that maybe this school might be real, maybe not, but somebody is definitely spamming Wikipedia with the article in order to generate buzz. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:10, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I checked out just now. We are talking about Jamia Jawaril Fatima. I accept that the information provided in this article is insufficient. But soon I hope it will be a good and helpful article. Sorry for i am new to Wikipedia please help me by checking the article now And order me what the next I should be to do. MustafaRaza 12:36, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- Whether or not there is "fallacious context" doesn't matter. The bottom line is that this article is about a non-notable subject (may not even be real). The only source given is one supposedly published by the subject itself. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero | My Talk 06:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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