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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This person as a whole is not notable nor influential, and does not meet wiki standards for biography of a living person.
Her achievements and awards' notability is questioned. At least it is very debatable whether his awards are truly notable by wikipedia standards. They could be achievable easily by others. There are many other similar children merely in Hong Kong (her country of residence), let alone the world.
Many of her competitions are regional with few competitors. It is not difficult to achieve these results. Her international competitions' awards are mostly seconds to fourths. Her performances are also not notable.
The whole article is interwoven with biased terms, suggesting a positive image. More neutral wordings should be used if it is to be kept. (eg. she is recognized by her achievements in..)
Dead links present.
The major contributor & creator is suspected to be autobiographing together with a few of her close friends. There is a huge conflict of interest in creating a wiki as a resume. Moreover, several accounts are suspected to be involved in sock puppetry (requires further investigation with admin power), thus protecting this article from deletion.
minor: There is also a noticable amount of edits by blocked users or ip adresses.
Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 11:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as a borderline pass of WP:GNG as references are provided, her achievements in competitions are notable at the international level which is more notable than national level, the accusations of coi and sockpuppetry is wholly unproven.
- *May I know who made this edit? From "as a borderline pass ....to ...wholly unproven". Thanks. Also, please look at this page's edit history. There are indeed multiple accounts confirmed with sock puppetry that were editing this page. More are yet to be confirmed but highly suspected. Multiple accounts involved in the editing history have only edited this page! Then gone. Nothing else.Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 07:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- There are references, but they all seem to be of a primary or affiliated nature. Her five top three finishes in competition are impressive: but they seem to all be in the junior category that would not be considered a "major music competition" per WP:MUSICBIO, I think. I'd say she fails that guideline as well as WP:GNG, on the basis of what I can find -- my only concern is there maybe Cantonese news refs we're missing. Definitely leaning to delete, if none can be found. Given her talents, it may just be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:35, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I am not convinced she is even close to being borderline, however for minors we should be well past borderline before we create articles on them. BLP concerns are even more heightened when the subject is still a minor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree. If you look closely at her awards, they are mostly regional with few competitors. A closer examination reveals that some of her regional competitions (regional as in within her own town) have only less than 20 competitors. Even the overseas ones have few competitors, mostly from the hosting country. They are also children's competitions, not professional ones and not notable. It is not hard or notable to get these achievements if she joins lots of these competitions. Moreover, two of her prizes are awarded by the Hong Kong harp chamber, which is the place where she attends lessons.[1] Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 07:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- ReplyAs a cantoneese speaker, I have searched for websites related to her using various search engines in Chinese language. There are indeed a few more websites about her. Consider this one:[2] It's an article mainly focusing on her teacher. There's a tiny section interviewing her, with her saying that playing the harp makes her happy. There's also a ticketing website which included that she performed as a student in her teacher's personal miniconcert[3] (The concert is held in a small chapel) These are the notable websites that mention her. There are also some other promotions or archive websites that mentions the above concert. Aside from that, two websites from her elementary school that said she got some sort of artistic ambasador's nomination in her school. Please correct me if there's anything wrong. Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 07:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete since there's nothing at all convincing and this should've honestly been PRODed. SwisterTwister talk 19:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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