The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 09:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Bruma

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I don't think being an unused substitute against Porto is enough to meet WP:ATHLETE. Also there is a lack of independent sources meaning he fails WP:GNG. If it is kept, it probably needs a bit of cleaning up. Spiderone 10:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone 10:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE (as he hasn't actually played) and WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 10:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Delete- He is part of Carlo Ancellotti's plans, why make another article once he makes his first team debut. I'm the one who wrote this article, and everything is corrected, he has a full Biography of himself in the citation below, look at it.Sonyds13 (talk) 22:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Do you have a crystal ball? What if he gets injured this season and doesn't play? Spiderone 08:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A "full biography" you say? As in the usual run of the mill stuff (age, date of birth etc.) that every club publishes about its own players? That doesn't make him notable! Giant Snowman 10:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and GiantSnowman. – Pee Jay 08:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and GiantSnowman. Kosack (talk) 11:51, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails notability for sportspeople at WP:ATH. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of any third party media coverage. --Jimbo^[online] 17:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes the WP:GNG. Non-trivial coverage here and here. Signed up for a major professional team. Running about as we did with Nathan Delfouneso, deleting because of a clause demanding that the subject has played, only so that we can write up the article over again a few months later is an exercise in pointless bureaucracy, and a waste of editorial resources. Sjakkalle (Check!) 12:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- There is no guarantee that he'll make his debut this season or even next season Spiderone 14:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - you don't have to rewrite anything, just ask an admin to restore. --Jimbo^[online] 14:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am an admin, and I know that you cannot "just ask an admin to restore" without proving that there is a consensus to do so. Undoing the deletion would need another discussion at DRV. Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, top clubs like Chelsea don't sign on young players with professional contracts, in order to put them on the bench in Champions League matches for decoration. Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure there are a few players who have signed professionally with Chelsea and not played. See Stuart Searle Spiderone 15:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I meant restore once he plays in a fully-professional competition, not just willy nilly. --Jimbo^[online] 22:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, if there is added material, it doesn't even take an admin to restore, you merely have to rewrite the article. You would need to make it very plain on the talk p;.. how it differs from the deleted article to avoid deletion ass unaltered re-creation, and if it does get speedied, then go to deletion review. But if he does make a professional appearance, I cannot imagine the article would not be permitted there, and I hope no admin would be so careless as to G4. DGG ( talk ) 04:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thats because they were injured during the months of August September. Alex, Zhirkov, Nemanja Matic, and Ross Turnbull were injured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonyds13 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per nom. GauchoDude (talk) 23:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He is in and listed as a current member of the Dutch U-21 squad which should be good enough reason to give him some space. But the article should at least give some facts as date and place of birth and his Feijenoord period to meet minimum standards of other player's bio's.24.207.124.122 (talk) 04:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.