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The result was redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Massachusetts. as an ATD. This is the most common outcome in AFDs on unelected political candidates. This is not my opinion, just an observation after closing hundreds of these discussions. Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
John E. Deaton[edit]
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Non-notable political candidate. His campaign announcement got coverage in major publications, but that is to be expected of any candidate in a U.S. Senate race. Outside of his campaign, he's only been covered by minor crypto blogs, so I don't think he meets WP:GNG. Also, this article is literally a press release. My favorite lines are "Deaton emphasizes his background as a fighter for the little guy against greedy corporations" and "John Deaton's personal story is marked by overcoming adversity" (yes, they wikilinked "adversity"). I'd support a redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Massachusetts. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The viability of disregarding a person, which in this case is a candidate in the public interest, and my contribution deserves consideration. At least until it no longer is in the public interest. Afterward public interest/history of this person has passed, I agree the page should be deleted. People go to Wikipedia to get information about political races. Purely including pages of an incumbent and removing those that aren't for those who are established should be treated fair by editors. I'll certainly delete some of the editorial aspects included, but the page should at least remain until after elections. Dema9049 (talk) 14:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- We aren't here to promote them in case they win. You're either notable or you're not. Oaktree b (talk) 18:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, this is a pretty weak argument and does not demonstrate sufficient understanding of our P&G. We don't make pages about people because they are popular and then delete them when their fame wears off. That's not how it works. We create pages of people who have demonstrated lasting notability. And we're not a guide; we're not going to have pages up just to help people when the content is unnotable/unencyclopedic. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Massachusetts. "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability" - WP:NPOL I can't find anything in-depth on him beyond generic campaign coverage and cyrpto blogs so nothing to meet WP:GNG. There is a lot of that though so it's possible there's something hiding. Shaws username . talk . 12:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment A CNBC article [1] is primarily about somoene who works for his law firm sending make-up to be tested for asbestos, which he gave a quote for, and [2] Reiterates the last article, but with the company saying there's no asbestos and he couldn't be reached for comment. A Reuters articles [3] is primarily about an XRP court case which mentions him as representing the XRP holders and quotes a tweet, another [4] referencing an amicus brief his firm filed. I don't see any of them being significantly about him, the Fox Buisness thats he's appeared on [5] is him giving his opinion on Sam Bankman-Fried and [6] is him giving his views on the Ripple-XRP court case he was involved in. It's closer than the other two to give him notability but I still don't see either of them giving him significant coverage. Shaws username . talk . 19:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect this promotional article about a nonnotable candidate, per nom. - MrOllie (talk) 15:14, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete purely promotional American candidate article. It's the season, I guess. SportingFlyer T·C 16:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Tis the season: Wikipedia:POLITICIAN. A non-notable attorney with a non-notable personal background, running for office. Looks more like trolling for business clientele rather any serious run for office. — Maile (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Crypto guy/potential politician/marine... None of which are very notable. Trial lawyer is simply a job. I don't see that he's hit our notability standards yet. Oaktree b (talk) 18:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not notable. Wouldn't be opposed to the Redirect mentioned by others above. Intothatdarkness 20:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Massachusetts per nom & others.Djflem (talk) 13:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Deaton has been mentioned by and appeared on numerous mainstream news sources over the past several years such as Reuters, CNBC, Fox Business, and others for his legal work in the asbestos and Crypto law space. Saying that he has only been mentioned by minor crypto blogs previously is completely incorrect. 2607:FEA8:3CA0:5F00:7C7A:B693:412E:6416 (talk) 18:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Being "mentioned" (your words) does not prove notability. Ongoing, in-depth coverage proves notability, and Deaton has only gotten in-depth coverage from the aforementioned minor crypto blogs. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 23:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. He is presently a political candidate, but that doesn't appear to be all the coverage of him that's out there from RS. From what I can find, there appears to be some coverage in the context of a false arrest lawsuit stemming from his 2018 arrest, as well as a Lawyer of the Year award from Rhode Island Lawyers Weekly, a trade publication. This doesn't amount to WP:NBIO, but I'm having a hard time using my standard news search stuff since I'm running into a wall of cryptocurrency-specific sources. That coverage is expected given his history in the area, but it's making it harder than usual to search for RS, so I'm leaving this as a bold comment rather than a !vote one way or the other until I can figure out a better way to filter through sourcing. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or redirect - this is blatantly promotional editing - David Gerard (talk) 21:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Massachusetts. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:54, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Article with a clear promotional tone and fails notability guidelines yet. I may support draftification as if this candidate becomes Senator, then it is worthy to just move it back given he would be notable for being in a legislative body. Redirect is undesirable as there are others who are candidates whose Wikipedia titles are not redirects/hasn't been created. Toadette (Let's discuss together!) 06:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Wikipedia is not an election guide, it is an encyclopedia of notable subjects. I'm not against an eventual redirect, but the promotional nature of the article merits a delete then redirect. Best, GPL93 (talk) 22:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.