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The result was Draftify‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Schnitzer[edit]

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Seems to be WP:TOOSOON for an article at the moment as I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage from third-party sources to meet WP:GNG. Perhaps he may become notable once he plays in the Olympics next summer. JTtheOG (talk) 16:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Canada. JTtheOG (talk) 16:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That may be fair, although I will share my rationale for creating this article now and why I think it makes sense to leave the stub article as created and active. My understanding of volleyball notability comes from past discussions Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)/Archive_24#Volleyball_notability_proposal_2. This year's 2023 FIVB Volleyball Men's Olympic Qualification Tournaments is actually serving as the 2023 Volleyball Men's World Cup which meets this criteria for his inclusion on Wikipedia. There is some third party coverage of his contributions in this tournament, including his 10 points against China which were the third highest in the match for Canada. link and link 2. I will try to add this into the article. For now this is the summary of my defence for the inclusion of the article as it is now. Words in the Wind(talk) 17:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify or Userfy: WP:NOTJUSTYET, allow him play in the next summer, it should be good to go by then. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, I have moved to draft now. Feel free to delete and I may recreate once the Olympic teams are named shortly before the games. Words in the Wind(talk) 20:24, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Words in the Wind Looks like you forgot to draftify? I will urge you to draftify since you're the original creator of the article. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Jordan_Schnitzer Words in the Wind(talk) 20:40, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh or @Liz, creator created a draft copy for preservation till subject passes notability. Can this be closed as moved to draft by creator. Although, they didn't actually move it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:17, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or draftify Clearly not yet notable enough per WP:GNG, which is the applicable guideline here. Whether they become notable in the foreseeable future, I don't know, and in any case this is only speculation. So technically should probably be deleted, but I can live with draftifying also. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:08, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or draftify, obviously without prejudice against recreation in the future if and when he attains greater notability. Simply qualifying for the Olympics isn't an instant notability freebie anymore, so we require a lot more WP:GNG-worthy coverage about him (which is not the same thing as "coverage that happens to glance off his name in the process of being fundamentally about something else") to get him over the bar. Bearcat (talk) 15:08, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.