The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 05:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kings and Roads (Air Gear) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

This fictional topic does not establish notability independent of Air Gear through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of original research and unnecessary plot details. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so the coverage in the setting section of the main article is enough detail on the topic. TTN (talk) 23:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. My head is spinning after trying to work out what the article is about. After some look at the article List of Air Gear characters, I think that "Kings and Roads" is a subset of characters along with their special abilities. A list of characters is acceptable as a sub-article but this sublist seems overly specific. I also harbor some doubts that the content can be sourced, even directly from the manga. Much of the content looks like am interpretation of Air Gear's plot, and is probably original research. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Query: It looks like an incomplete edit there. Did you mean "Delete along with List of Air Gear characters" or "Merge with List of Air Gear characters"? —Quasirandom (talk) 00:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• To clarify, I want to keep List of Air Gear characters, since I think a list of characters is a valid sub-article which provides information on a significant aspect of that manga. I want to delete this "Kings and Roads" article because I think the content is mostly incomprehensible, and original research, and from what I could see, the kings are already described in the character list. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• So that first sentence should be read as meaning "Delete given that List of Air Gear characters exists"? —Quasirandom (talk) 17:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Aargh!!!!! I can see now why you were confused, I made a huge "misprint" in my vote writing "Delete with List of Air Gear Characters" instead of simply "Delete" (this article, and only this article). Some text must have been inadvertently been moved by highlighting, or during a revision of the text. I have amended that now. Hope I have clarified matters, and sorry about the confusion. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• No worries. Thanks for the clarification. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The article provides no context, no introduction, and no references. This has to be the most confusing article I've ever seen. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 10:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Expand. The reason this article is confusing is because it's incomplete. The "Kings and Roads" article should be a section (once redone in prose instead of graphed) of an article about the Air Gear universe's AT world in general. That would provide much better context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.123.46 (talk) 23:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 20:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.