The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Post rewrite there seems strong consensus to retain. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 10:21, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Leiba Dubrovskii[edit]

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I do not believe this is notable at this point.I do not believe this is notable at this point. (Not speedying since there might be some potential for expanding the article). I am not even sure this merits a redirect to Volodymyr Viatrovych. Ymblanter (talk) 12:51, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• With the current amount of source, I believe Redirect to Volodymyr Viatrovych is the best outcome. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 12:52, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  At this point, the episode is not even mentioned in that article, and I do not have a good quick assessment whether it should be mentioned there. Probably needs to be investigated further.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Which episode isn't mentioned?Xx236 (talk) 12:59, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I went to Volodymyr Viatrovych and searched for "Dubr", did not find anything. Should I have a more careful look?--Ymblanter (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now it was added to Volodymyr Viatrovych, and possible expansion of that part and redirecting Leiba Dubrovskii to Volodymyr Viatrovych is certainly a viable outcome of this discussion. The Dubrovskii article was considerably expanded since nomination. I still have doubts, however, that Dubrovskii deserves a standalone article.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:35, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What about learning the subject instead to shout about your lack of knowledge? Xx236 (talk) 13:03, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May I please ask you to concentrate on the topic of the article and be a bit more explicit? I am willing to help you but I am not sure what you want me to do.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry.

The problem is more general, it's a part of the discussion if Ukrainian nationalists were antisemitic.

I understand that the page is of poor quality and it needs rewrite. I have copied part of the UPA page to create Stella Krenzbach. Xx236 (talk) 06:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Xx236. Could you please try to be more civil in your interactions with other Wikipedia contributors? This is not a mere request for politeness but a reminder of a significant Wikipedia policy. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Not enough coverage of this fictional person to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:52, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The subject of the contested article is not a "fictional" nor a "fictitious" person. He did exist, per sources. -The Gnome (talk) 09:20, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Though JPL's comment was reasonable at the time given that at that time the lead said ... is a fictional Jewish-Ukrainian nationalist, invented by.... PamD 09:39, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Notability — Preceding unsigned comment added by GentlemanY (talk • contribs) 13:24, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:GNG - lacks coverage Snowycats (talk) 04:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• I have rewitten the page and changed its name. I'm sorry but your opinions aren't based on facts. The subject has been widely covered - both the myth of a Jewish UPA fighter and the recent academic research.Xx236 (talk) 06:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep since subject comfortably meets the required notability criteria. Subject is a person that possibly unwittingly has become historically important in the context of the WWII history of the Ukraine. -The Gnome (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interested editors are invited to examine the revised version of the text. -The Gnome (talk) 15:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep after The Gnome's improvements which seem to establish notability. PamD 21:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep given the improvements made to the article. Aoba47 (talk) 01:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: easily meets GNG. Catrìona (talk) 15:25, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Fortunately meets WP:GNG. NANExcella (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:16, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Seems to meet WP:GNG now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:43, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.