The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Snow close and withdrawn by user. (non-admin closure) Dusti^*poke* 22:15, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-charting single is not notable. Prod was removed by IP without comment. Dolovis (talk) 20:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Even if the song is not notable per WP:NSONGS at the moment, it will be when this nomination ends. It's currently at number 2 on the UK mid-week chart (see here) and so will definitely chart on the UK Singles Chart (and thus be notable) on Sunday. Mhiji (talk) 20:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep - I'm considering a "wait and see" opinion based solely on the fact that Katy's other single (which is ALSO from this unconfirmed album) charted very well. On a side note, the Katy B article is in need of some serious expansion. Very little information there for an artist with multiple charted songs. False-notability? ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 03:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or userfy if it isn't notable now, then it should not be included and we should not have to resort to a CRYSTALBALL explanation for it. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 20:33, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although, per Dolovis below, the song has charted, so it is now notable. There's no longer a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Mhiji (talk) 17:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Withdraw - See TOP 40 OFFICIAL UK SINGLES ARCHIVE, song has now hit the charts. Dolovis (talk) 20:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no independent coverageno evidence given in article of independent coverage in reliable sources besides charting. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • What are you on about?! There's loads of coverage. It's charted at number 4 in a country's national chart so is definitely notable per WP:NSONGS. Are you saying that all other singles which chart at number 4 or lower should also be deleted?! Mhiji (talk) 17:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • From WP:NSONGS - "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album."--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• That doesn't really explain why you think it should be deleted...? You are agreeing that it is notable then as it has "been ranked on national or significant music charts". Are you saying that you think it is unlikely ever to grow beyond a stub and so it should be merged into the Katy B article?! Mhiji (talk) 01:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep song is #4 on a major chart, which is almost unquestionably within the threshhold of WP:NSONGS. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 02:24, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep charting single. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and Close Charting single, plus the nominator has already asked to withdraw the article from consideration. Regent of the Seatopians (talk) 03:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, satisfies WP:Music.SharedPlanetType (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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