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The result was no consensus. Normally, with this minimal level of discussion, I'd want to relist, but it's already been on AfD for over 3 weeks, so that seems a little pointless. Opinion is leaning towards keep, but one of the keepers is an SPA, so I'm just going to call this NC and let it go at that. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:04, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Stahl

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Actress and photographer who has had a number of minor parts in various movies - does not meet WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. bonadea contributions talk 10:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There's a few more sources at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Lisa Stahl Sullivan, but all of them are trivial mentions - mostly cast lists for movies, or search results. --bonadea contributions talk 10:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Weak~~ Delete. Tough one, since it appears she appeared in 30+ different TV shows/movies/TV movies, but all were in minor roles, except the Baywatch Nights spinoff show. I don't believe that her body of work meets WP:NACTOR. Photography doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE or WP:BIO more generally. mikeman67 (talk) 21:32, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Updating to delete after further consideration and comments by Bonadea. mikeman67 (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. She isn't a household name, but she's been in ALOT of top shows/movies. She is the type of person I would google to find out more about if I spotted her in one of these roles.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bali88 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Indeed, but googling for her turns up no coverage whatsoever in reliable sources, which indicates a lack of notability. The only source (except for cast listings and trivial mentions) is a blurb on the home page of her old high school. Furthermore, WP:NACTOR specifies that an actor should have had "significant roles in multiple notable [...] productions"; the "multiple" is there, but not the "significant", since all her parts have been minor, with the possible exception of Baywatch Nights. I admit that the fact that her name, unlike that of other minor characters, has been inserted in the cast list in several of the Wikipedia articles about major movies she's been in makes me wary that Wikipedia is being used as a promotional platform for her, but I genuinely do not think that the notability is there. --bonadea contributions talk 11:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She's done more than minor roles. She was recurring on Murphy Brown as Garry Marshall's mistress, had the lead roles in two Disney Channel movies, was the Speedo model for three years. She retired from the front of the camera when she got married and had children and went into photography for lots of celebs and shows. I'm a fan and there are a lot of us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanleyeisen (talk • contribs) 22:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- This account is a WP:SPA that has exclusively made edits about Stahl on this and related pages. I'm guessing there's a WP:COI here. mikeman67 (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - while the current article is a wreck, she's had a recurring supporting role on TV's Baywatch and its spin-off, Baywatch Nights. FWIW, her guest spot on Married With Children was not memorable. Bearian (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e decker ^talk 17:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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