The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Enos733 (talk) 02:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of Calgary Transit bus routes[edit]

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AN IP user 24.64.238.121 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) PRODded this article for being extremely outdated with references dating to 2011 or earlier, which is not a valid reason for deletion. However, the references are few, and I'd like to ask if this list of bus routes is encyclopedic per WP:NOTTRAVEL. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alberta-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, as discussed on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of COTA bus routes, I do not believe these bus route articles violate WP:NOTTRAVEL any more than railway line articles do. There are no prices, hours, service frequencies, or attractions on this page. I do however agree the page needs work, and should probably be tagged as outdated for the time being. I think people will be more keen to improve it after a keep consensus is found, as the frequent deletion nominations for bus related articles may be discouraging potential editors. NemesisAT (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, per WP:BUSOUTCOMES. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 15:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• BUSOUTCOMES is an essay. It states Articles about individual bus routes are rarely notable; recommendations to merge into a suitable list article are common.. That doesn't automatically translate to... because it's common to keep bus route articles, we keep all of them. Transit Authority of River City, Community Transit, DART First State New Castle County, Lynx bus (Orlando), Milwaukee County, Denver RTD, Cleveland RTA, Utah Transit Authority, DART, MBTA South Boston, MCTS and C-TRAN (Washington) are all recent examples of bus route list articles that have not survived AfD. Ajf773 (talk) 08:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - for large operators like Calgary Transit, where reliable information is readily available, lists of bus routes are valid and encyclopediac. I may be able to do some cleanup in the coming days. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Seems to pass WP:LISTN. List isn't at all a travel guide so NOTTRAVEL doesn't apply here. This is an encyclopedic collection of bus routes in a very large city. We have lists already for bus routes in each of New York's five boroughs, as well as cities such as Hong Kong, London, Boston, Toronto, and even Suffolk County, New York. All of those lists are considered acceptable, so why not this one?--🌀Locomotive207-talk🌀 00:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The lists for London, New York, Hong Kong and some other cities are notable because they are well sourced and a high number of the individual routes in those cities are notable in their own right. Notability is not inherited. Every list article must have evidence of notability to support its inclusion into Wikipedia. Ajf773 (talk) 08:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:LISTN. Djflem (talk) 11:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. At present this list of bus routes does not have any evidence of notability. It is mostly supported by primary sources and there are no notable routes. In fact six of the eight sources present reference the auxiliary community services rather than all the key bus routes. Ajf773 (talk) 08:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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