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The result was keep. ‑Scottywong| [confer] || 16:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- List of people and organizations sanctioned in relation to human rights violations in Belarus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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This list violates our WP:BLP policy. It is a list of a single, potentially deprecatory attribute of a large number of (mostly, but not exclusively) non-WP:N persons such as junior military officers like majors and captains. Each person's inclusion is cited to a single, primary source. It has no encyclopedic value. Chetsford (talk) 17:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep in line with other similar articles. We are not accusing these people of crimes, we are just citing some official decisions here. Such sanctions are quite a notable event. P.S. Ideally, the article could be expanded from a list to a larger article. -- НСНУ (talk) 19:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "We are not accusing these people of crimes, we are just citing some official decisions here." We don't have a "List of People Charged with 2nd Degree Vandalism in Canton, Ohio" even though we could cite such a list to court charging documents and other primary sources, just like this list. At least half of the individuals in this list are WP:NOTPUBLICFIGUREs and fall under our presumption in favor of privacy. Many of them are captains and majors with no articles and no possibility of getting an article under WP:N. And to omit the ones whose inclusion is a violation of BLP then makes this an incomplete and inaccurate list. Any mention of individuals under sanction should be in the relevant biography. Wikipedia is not in the business of maintaining "enemies of America" lists, which is what this is. Chetsford (talk) 03:12, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belarus-related deletion discussions.
Lightburst (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.Relisting comment: I see little commentary from the !keep votes that speaks to whether this article meets relevant policies and guidelines, especially those that Chetsford has put forward.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 05:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a list of people who have been sanctioned as part of a notable current event. The article isn't accusing anyone of anything, it is merely presenting factual information about who has been sanctioned as part of the international response to the ongoing events in Belarus. Calling it an 'enemies of America list' is a fairly silly accusation considering the breadth of the international response. Arianna the First (talk) 10:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "This is a list of people who have been sanctioned as part of a notable current event. The article isn't accusing anyone of anything, it is merely presenting factual information about who has been sanctioned as part of the international response to the ongoing events in Belarus." I agree with all of the preceding recitation of facts. However, none of this is a policy-based argument for why it should be kept; it is, as noted, simply a recitation of observable facts about the article. Chetsford (talk) 22:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Quite frankly you're motivation for this request appears to be the POV that these sorts of lists are 'enemies of america' lists. The fact these sanctions have been levied is notable and a list is the best way to present that information. Further, your argument that people on this list aren't notable goes against WP:NNC that states "Notability guidelines do not apply to content within articles or lists". The fact these sanctions have been levied is notable and a list is the best way to present that information. blindlynx (talk) 10:45, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- This article needs serious clean up not deletion. Given that it's based on a current event that's not surprising tough. Also it isn't an "enemies of America list" as the EU, UK and Canada have also levied sanctions. Not to mention Belarusians themselves have praised sanctions. Similarly to the list of sanctions levied during maidan it provides useful information about who is involved in current events from a international point of view. blindlynx (talk) 10:19, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Draftify: The material needs to be completely cited with sources that unambiguously meet the RS standard, since this has to do with BLPs. Given that, and the geographic location and the controversial nature of the topic, to require anything less than perfect sourcing is unacceptable. // Timothy :: talk 14:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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