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The result was Withdrawn. Codename Lisa (talk) 17:46, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notepad (disambiguation)

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Delete as a bad disambiguation page:

Entries of Notepad++, Notepad+ and Notepad2 are forbidden per WP:PTM.
Notepad software is forbidden by WP:DABREDIR, because "notepad software" does not appear in text editor article. (I have nominated it for deletion.)

What is left consists of two entries (notepad and Microsoft Notepad) which, per WP:2DAB are not enough for a disambiguation page. Codename Lisa (talk) 06:58, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - there's enough useful WP:PTM See also entries for a useful dab, and the obvious synonyms / ambiguity around names editors, tablets, laptops, notebooks, netbooks, Thinkpads so useful for navigation via the See alsos. Marked as twodabs in the mean time to attract more entries. Widefox; talk 12:37, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Whether Text editor currently mentions the name "notepad" or not, it should, as it's a relatively common term for this type of program.[1][2]. I also wonder if the alternative Notepads like Notepad+ should really be removed. I think most would still refer to them as just "Notepad".--Cúchullain ^t/c 13:15, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've added sourced information on text editors being referred to as "notepad" software to text editor.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:54, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:07, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Uanfala (talk) 14:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Widefox. --Gimubrc (talk) 18:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Notepad+, Notepad++, and Notepad2 are all commonly shortened to "Notepad" (there is significant risk of confusion or reference to them by that name), and that shortening isn't limited to a certain area or group, so they aren't in conflict with the partial title matches guideline. Text editor can also probably be listed in some way as Cuchullain states.—Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 19:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. I can see why the nominator felt that this might not fall within the letter of the guidelines (although I think on close examination it does), but it certainly falls within the spirit of it - we have similar terms which may confuse readers and there is no benefit to readers of deletion. Boleyn (talk) 19:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agree 100%. Last time I checked, we don't have good guidance in MOSDAB for useful dictionary based entries in dabs. For example synonyms not listed in the article, but may be in wiktionary. I add wikt to all dabs now, and it may be as simple as adding all useful entries from wikt in the dab. I suppose the twodabs template covers this somewhat. Widefox; talk 10:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I for one don't see why anyone would refer to Notepad++ as just Notepad - if the extra characters were just run-of-the-mill punctuation, maybe that would be ambiguous, but it's two pluses, there's no way one could just omit them as irrelevant for the search term. Every keyboard has a one or two key combinations to get a plus, and it's reasonable to expect people would type it in. People who are searching for just "notepad" are looking either for the paper variant or for the trivial MS program. Stuffing all the other similarly named programs into this part of the navigation process is indeed a WP:PTM violation. It's also a slippery slope to linking every Michael from Mike (disambiguation), and whatnot, and should be avoided. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it's almost as likely that people are looking for general "notepad" text editors without regard to whether it's the Microsoft version or not. Though I note that notepad software is up for deletion, for some reason.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:28, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall ever seeing anyone refer to "a notepad app" in the real world. Most people who don't care for it (but use Windows) only know about MS Notepad, and those who care seem to call them with the generic term "editor" or "text editor". There's a lot of this terminology in the field, what with Notepad, Editpad, Evernote, even iPad, and probably a lot of other variants, but I don't see that Notepad has become generic, not on the level of text editors or note-taking apps. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:35, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, notepad is generic term for whatever plain text editor happens to be available. older ≠ wiser 12:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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