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The result was redirect to Uyghur cuisine#Breads. Missvain (talk) 23:42, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pamirdin[edit]

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Unverifiable and looks to be non-notable. No serious references since 2009, search results turn up nothing other than information mirrored from Wikipedia. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Uyghur cuisine#Breads (with the history preserved under the redirect), where pamirdin is already mentioned, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. Here are two sources about the topic:
  1. Minahan, James B. (2010). The Complete Guide to National Symbols and Emblems [2 volumes]. Vol. 1. Santa Barbara, California: Greenwood Press. p. 45. ISBN 978-0-313-34496-1. Retrieved 2021-05-17.

     In "Food" section in the "East Turkestan" entry, the book notes: "Other specialties include ... pamirdin, baked pastries filled with minced lamb, carrots, and onion".

  2. Lin, Eddie (2013-05-15). "This is Food from the Edge of China: Uyghur Cuisine at Silk Road Garden in Rowland Heights". Los Angeles. Archived from the original on 2021-05-17. Retrieved 2021-05-17.

     The article notes: "Silk Road Garden is a restaurant cooking very specialized and otherwise hard-to-find Chinese-Islamic foods like pamirdin (baked pies with lamb and vegetables) and xurpa (lamb soup)."

  Cunard (talk) 05:29, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Looks delicious and, as pies go, not toooo unhealthy. I was intrigued by a pie that comes from a region of China for which we have been given a translation not in Mandarin but in what looks like Russian. Then I looked at a map and realised that maybe the folks in the XUAR still prefer to communicate in Russian.

The solution for the "keep or delete" discussion depends on whether you think we will ever find someone with enough Russian or Chinese to find sources and build it into a more substantial wiki-entry. There are lots of folks across China, Europe and America who speak both Chinese and English fluently, but I don't know how many of them also take time to contribute to wikipedia. Writing as someone who spends a lot of time eating and even more time thinking about food, I guess that if pressed I would vote for keep in the hope / belief that sooner or later someone will turn up with the necessary language skills to build it into something better. But I agree that if you need to restrict your search to (1) what online google searching produces from here and (2) stuff written in English, there does appear to be a serious shortage of accessible sources. Regards Charles01 (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Cunard. It's not helpful to have a one line stub article that is redundant to Uyghur cuisine. Spudlace (talk) 03:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Uyghur cuisine#Breads, can find sources to meet WP:V but they are not in-depth enough to need a separate article. Content is already in the other article so no need for merge. Jumpytoo Talk 21:22, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.