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The result was no consensus. This is all a little difficult to follow, but there's clearly no consensus to delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Permalco[edit]

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Promotional puff piece about a company of dubious notability. The pictures used in the article are claimed as 'own work' and the author is listed as 'ОАО «Пермалко»'- possibly a case of undisclosed paid editing. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:32, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pelmalco is heir apparent of THE OLDEST enterprise of Perm Krai (1895) and one of the oldest in Ural Region among food and drink companies. Even scientists investigate its history^[1]. The company is on the list of the largest enterprises of Perm Krai and a a considerable conrtibutor into the economy of the region, they do produce spirits of the high quality which is regularlly prooved by the prizez they receive at national and international contesets (Grand Prixs and medals at The International Spirits Challenge, London; San Francisco World Spirits Competition, Meiningers International Spirits Award ISW, The International Taste & Quality Institute, Brussels, New York International Spirits Competition, Berlin International Spirits Competition, Internationaler Spiritusen Wettbewerb (Neustadt), several times vodka of Permalco was accepted as the best vodka of the year - this is an objective and independent proof of Permalco. Or they're all bought and worthless?

Is it bad that some pictures are of Permalco - that they gave it in free use at Wikimedia Commons? May be others which is in public pomain[1], [2], [3] is bad as well? OK, I remove modern images.

Can eh bien mon prince show me which pieces of the article are just promotional puff? I'll work with them! Thanks for your remarks!--Pustov (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:46, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:46, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

One of the sources cited in the article (of dubious reliability, but no matter), says it is the 23rd largest in the country (directly contradicting the lede) - surely this size alone doesn't make it notable. The article is choke-full of platitudes ("Permalko caters home market and exports its products to CIS countries, Europe, the USA, and Africa"). There's a whole section dedicated to a bunch of medals and awards, and generally it reads like a press release. If you created this article (and the ru.wiki equivalent) on behalf of the company, you really need to disclose that.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now "Permalco" is on top-20 in Russia[4][5][6], and it means they develop successfully.

— Platitudes? May be it's the matter ot view. But there do your sharp eye see them more? Let's get rid of them!

— "whole section of medals" I gess we don't understand each other... If there's neсessity to prove the importance of the company and its products, that's that the independent experts in Germany, England, USA, Russia and other countries already did - by this medals^{[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16]}. Awards at eh bien mon prince page — are they promotional puff or it's objective indication on his big work at Wikipedia?--Pustov (talk) 08:16, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added two more links to English Language sources: ^[17] and ^[18].Pustov (talk) 06:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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