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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 20:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sanfield (Management) Limited[edit]

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An article on a construction contractor which fails to meet WP:NCORP. The first source in the article is a promotional blurb which is unlikely reliable and independent of the subject; the second source is more promotional stuff from the parent company's (Sun Hung Kai) website. A further search of the company in English and Chinese language sources failed to reveal additional qualifying sources. Dps04 (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Dps04 (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. Dps04 (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments from the nominator: In addition to the sources mentioned above, I was only able to find mentions of the company in two "news sources": 1 and 2. While 1 is a reliable news sources, the article is little more than a promotional piece for the company's internship programme which is likely not independent of the subject; 2 only has brief mentions of the company. A merge to the article on the parent company is not a good idea either, as the parent company is a huge company with lots of business portfolios and subsidiaries, and mentioning this paritcular subsidary without the other subsidiaries the company controls seems to give undue weight to this subsidiary. --Dps04 (talk) 15:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete can't find anything sugesting notability, fails WP:NCORP --Devokewater@ 18:27, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SNOW and WP:MILL. Bearian (talk) 21:27, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A lot of news article result by using the Chinese name "新輝" [建築]. However, may be better to merge to Sun Hung Kai Properties due to WP:NCORP. Matthew hk (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Matthew hk, I did a search on both Chinese and English, but I do not see coverage on Sanfield Management Limited in the sources outside of the ones I mentioned. Feel free to link articles on RS for discussion. I also explained why I think a merge is inappropriate per WP:UNDUE in the first comment above -- Dps04 (talk) 14:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think we hard similar deletion for HK conglomerate already. Such as Emperor Group's subsidiaries. It is not relevant that how big parent company is (or how long the parent article), if the subsidiary's GNG/NCORP is derived from parent company and the subsidiary itself does not have stand-alone GNG/NCORP passing status, some GNG content of the subsidiary should merge to parent company's article. Matthew hk (talk) 09:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew hk, thanks for the comment. The point is, as a large company, Sun Hung Kai has hundreds of subsidiaries (see p.228 - 236 of their annual report for a list of their subsidiaries), and if the contents of this particular subsidiary was merged into the SHK article (but not other subsidiaries), this would give undue weight on an article on SHK, as I would have thought this particular subsidiary would have been a minor aspect of SHK per WP:BALASP. This is not relevant to the length of the SHK article. For the same reasons, I am not sure I agree with you that this subsidiary has inherited GNG or NCORP from its parent. Again, we can discuss on the sources if you could provide the news article results you found on Sanfield (Management) or 新輝. Thanks for the contribution -- Dps04 (talk) 09:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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