The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to List of Qin's Moon characters. Already merged. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 02:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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New user started the article without citing references, probably an unreferenced article and fails WP:N. ApprenticeFan ^{talk contribs} 13:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 13:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --J04n(talk page) 13:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've already added references and plan to add more. PLease don't delete492star (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This isn't a game of find a mention on the web somewhere, there has got to be a demonstration of significant, non-trivial coverage in 3rd party reliable sources. That's not here. RadioFan (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• If u looked at the external links section, and read more patiently downwards, you'd see Shao Yu's full biography. AND THAT is a non-trivial coverage by the CHINESE people. 492star (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• so is it okay now?492star (talk) 19:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear if this is a reliable source or not. Assuming it is, this article still does not meet guidelines for inclusion as there is not significant coverage in 3rd party sources. --RadioFan (talk) 20:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Qin's Moon. Edward321 (talk) 01:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Is there a simpler way?492star (talk) 05:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Alright, I provided a reference that is a translation of the entire first season synopsis.

Note: The synopsis was made by the Chinese creators. It provides SIGNIFICANT coverage. Is it okay now? Also, the name in the translation for Shao Yu is Siu Yu492star (talk) 05:04, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Unfortunately this reference doesn't help establish notability as it is a primary source. Sources written by the creator of these characters are fine as references but they dont tell us anything about how notable the subject is. Other people writing about the subject does establish notability.--RadioFan (talk) 12:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• A translation of an online synopsis does not count toward meeting the requirement in WP:N, as far as I can tell. Given that the character exists, and that Wikipedia wouldn't be Wikipedia if it didn't have at least a redirect for every minor fictional character, I'll go with merge (to Qin's Moon). Drmies (talk) 05:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but... He appears to be one of the main characters in an animated series. However, rather than have his own article, this should be merged into List of Qin's Moon characters or directly into Qin's Moon. —C.Fred (talk) 05:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it worked. I think.. since I've never merged before..492star (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, List of Characters of Qin's moon's page is done. Go to the main page and then there's a link. all the character's short bios and links to their own articles are there.492star (talk) 03:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

do you think its okay now?492star (talk) 18:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Text and/or other creative content from [nil Shao Yu] was copied or moved into [[List of Qin's Moon characters]] with [permanent diff this edit]. The former page's [ history] now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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