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The result was delete. BD2412 T 20:30, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tacha (2nd nomination)[edit]

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Fails GNG. Nothing suggest her media career will be different from other non-winning controversial BBN housmates such as TBoss (2017) and CeeCee (2018). Does not pass any of the specific guidelines for her line of work either, just some paid-media buzz. I have reasons to believe there is a strong COI here too, but my main rationale for this nomination is I don't see "relevance" in a few years time (WP:10YT). HandsomeBoy (talk) 16:09, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: this is a second AfD for this article. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Symply Tacha. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:53, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I added in the correct first AfD in the box above right. Lightburst (talk) 01:01, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Speedy Keep Ever since Tacha left the big brother’s house, she has hosted in Mayorkun one of Nigeria’s biggest musician signed to DMW record label owned by Davido “Mayor of Lagos” Concert in December held in lagos state, Nigeria. She is also set to host in Afrobeat Superstar Saturday in LA Lounge , Berlin, United Kingdom ,March 21st. She is not just known for one “event” as a former big brother’s housemate but as a serial enterpreneur with her Everything Tacha business and Titans Collections which was released 18th of January 2020, she is also a philanthropist who launched her “Natacha Akide Intiative” project that cater sanitary pads for young girls, a reality TV star sets to premiere her reality show “Keeping up with Tacha” and a Host References: olisa.tv/bbnaija-tacha-hosts-mayorkuns-lagos-fest-and-it-was-a-success
bellanaija.com/2020/02/keeping-up-with-tacha/amp
thenationonlineng.net/symply-tacha-launches-pad-for-every-girl/amp
herald.ng/tacha-launch-called-titans-collections/amp/
instagram.com/titanscollections
instagram.com/everythingtacha— Carababy1 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

@Carababy1: Why don't you wait for her to premiere her reality show, and for the reality show to be relevant before gauging her as a media personality? The other points you made about her hosting non-notable/semi-notable events do not hold water to me. HandsomeBoy (talk) 10:47, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The contents on this article about Natacha Anita Ibinabo Akide are purely factual and of utmost value to the Nigerian society. Tacha is an influential and important personality in Nigeria, widely loved both in Nigeria, Ghana and South Africa. I do not support that this article be deleted. Thank you. — Nessaherbert (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Please don't delete tacha, she's a very nice girl, I'm sure some group of people are reporting her because they support Mercy, please don't delete tacha page, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:542C:4CC0:F98E:DAF0:9B21:D2C8 (talk) 10:33, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Tacha is a very popular and influential person in Nigeria.The article on her on Wikipedia shouldn’t be deleted as prospective brands can have access to this information which will help guide their choice in working with her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogefina (talk • contribs) 10:39, 12 March 2020 (UTC) — Ogefina (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Strong Delete - This is a second AFD in which the first ended in a clear delete consensus. Okay moving forward the subject of article has still not been discussed with in-depth coverage in reliable sources hence invariably fails both WP:GNG & WP:ENT. Furthermore somebody posted the link to this AFD on Twitter which can be observed here hence the influx of very new users with their first edit being !votes Celestina007 (talk) 11:43, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• please disregard any evil report you heard about TACHA, it is all false. some people are really pained and frustrated about her sudden fame, and will do anything to bring her down. But we are fans, supporters, promoters, will stand by her daily to defend her for the marvelous works she has done for the girl child and more. In the space of three months, she has made herself a world figure, and also have the largest, strongest, dedicated and most committed fan base in the whole world. please she deserves better, thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Churchill west Jack (talk • contribs) 11:56, 12 March 2020 (UTC) — Churchill west Jack (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Its surprising that an innocent AFD nomination can start something such as this.HandsomeBoy (talk) 14:58, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HandsomeBoy, I have gone on to create an SPI investigation on both Carababy1 & Anonybaby. They both must think Wikipedia is a refuse dump site as other platforms. They literally carried their prejudice from twitter to this collaborative project & most annoying is both of them constantly copying my comments word for word from other AFD’s & pasting them on this current one.Celestina007 (talk) 16:10, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I've struck sockpuppet edits, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ambel20 Doug Weller talk 16:04, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Weller, Very good work there!!Celestina007 (talk) 16:10, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We all had the same idea: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Anonybaby. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment — It should also be noted that a very strong canvassing is ongoing & trending in Nigerian twitter whereby links to this AFD are posted & people are asked to sign up & !vote to keep this article & defend it relentlessly. For example see here there are many more similar to this.Celestina007 (talk) 17:27, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• delete nothing more than PR spam. Praxidicae (talk) 16:54, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment and Update — The tweets mandating all fans of the subject of the article to !vote a keep on this AFD & vehemently defend & contest the deletion on the main article’s talk page are smartly being deleted. As they are following this AFD in real time & trying to eradicate all loop holes. Right here is a tweet made on Twitter in which we also can observe the major ongoing canvassing which I believe would soon be deleted also since I have made it known in this AFD.Celestina007 (talk) 15:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This has happened before. I wouldn't worry about it. The decision will not be made according to the number of people saying keep or delete but upon the weight of the arguments based on our policies and guidelines. I note that the Twitter link is now unavailable. This AfD will be closed by a Wikipedia Administrator and whoever they all they won't be fooled by fans. Doug Weller talk 20:14, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Weller, you have a very sound & valid point! Celestina007 (talk) 20:29, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Nom is correct in that there is not enough in-depth, independent coverage to establish the subject's notability per WP:BIO; many of the sources are puff pieces or churnalism. In addition, the COI/PAID issues and off-wiki canvasing surrounding this subject (see Talk:Tacha#Paid Advocacy Off Wikipedia & Major Canvassing) definitely runs afoul of WP:NOTADVERTISING and WP:NOTADVOCACY, core policies of Wikipedia. While these may be overlooked if the subject were overwhelmingly considered to be notable, the past AfD - which resulted in deletion - shows this is not the case. SamHolt6 (talk) 23:23, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I can see several independent reliable sources discussing the subject. The current version may be crappy and in need of improvement, but she passes WP:GNG and the article can be improved. Mahveotm (talk) 16:28, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This article should really be speedily deleted. I'm not convinced this version is different from the version that was deleted. The subject is only known for being a Big Brother Nigeria contestant. She doesn't have a career outside of this event. People notable for a single event do not deserve stand-alone inclusion.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 14:23, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a PR agency website.--Darwinek (talk) 01:24, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment You're in the media, a little: Wikipedia Set To Delete Tacha’s Page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:00, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not really sure I'd consider sources that publish garbage like this to be "media" Praxidicae (talk) 16:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information Nigeria is definitely not reliable; the website has never been credible. It's more like a gossip blog.  Versace1608  ^{Wanna Talk?} 17:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I could have used scarequotes, as in "media", sure. I was not suggesting it'd be used as a ref for anything. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:52, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Non-winning competitor in an eleventieth-tier reality show. Fails WP:GNG Guy (help!) 22:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete without prejudice for recreation if her new reality show becomes notable in the future or if she receives significant coverage. The additional coverage after the previous AfD does not seem to be enough yet. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 11:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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