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The result was delete. Sandstein 16:48, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tarsus American College[edit]
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Article about a non-notable school. Half the sources are to the school's own website, one is Wikipedia, and the rest are either non sequiturs or passing mentions. BEFORE turns up nothing but passing mentions (string: "tarsus american college"). —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 08:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As the nominator says the state of the sourcing is pretty abysmal. From what I can tell they are all either primary references or blog posts. The only thing that could possible help this is the amount of notable alumni. A lot of them are questionably notable though and there's no valid guideline grounded basis to keep an article with horrible referencing just because it has a notable alumni section. So, this is a solid delete in my book. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I agree with the argument that the sources in this article can be improved; however, "non-notable" school argument is invalid as you can see from the list of alumni. This is one of the oldest and most well known high schools in Turkey with lots of history and notable alumni. A simple Google search will show this. Other schools of similar stature in Turkey are Üsküdar American Academy (sister school) and Robert College. This article has been in Wikipedia for more than 15 years and has served well as a source of information. A recent edit added links to school's website and these sources should be improved rather than deleting the article. --Emraydn12 (talk) 08:25, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Tarsus American College is a pioneer school and this page is its Wikipedia page. Students from all over the world might check its Wikipedia page if they wish to be in here. What you ask is completely illogical. People can Google many things as well as the Wikipedia page. The page has been improved and it will continue to improve by stakeholders, esspecialy the alumni. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.227.61.239 (talk) 10:47, 3 June 2021 (UTC) — 88.227.61.239 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Keep This is an internationally known American founded school since 1888. I have met university faulty, in midwest USA' who knew TAC and its sister schools, which I was amazed. The links were pretty old and untouched, but edits have been to reliable references.Srplb (talk) 18:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC) — Srplb (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Keep First; The book "A history of Tarsus American School" is the book written about the school and its history when the school is 100 years old. It is published in 1988. Writer is Alan A. Bartholomew, library head (https://prabook.com/web/alan_alfred.bartholomew/531257).
Please see below link. https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=Ot5CAQAAIAAJ&hl=tr&source=gbs_similarbooks
Book ASIN : B0006ERXVY
Book can also be purchased as second hand from this link; https://www.nadirkitap.com/a-history-of-tarsus-american-school-1888-1988-alan-a-bartholomew-kitap13507068.html
Second;
A second book is the collection of memories from the alumni is published in 2018.
https://www.google.com/search?q=stickler+%C4%B1n+dili+olsa&sxsrf=ALeKk016wWdE6_ZBPYWd39gCmtpp-p7bHA:1622748427002&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ici1Djn8JFwgZM%252CJuzogyzpt71UOM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kShFXYcECU4CqRSkeyhTh2KmYigwg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1zbP8mPzwAhVphP0HHeqQCMcQ9QF6BAgTEAE#imgrc=qfTVNycQXX0HrM
Book is in Turkish.
Third;
It is a Masters Thesis; "Establishment, Development and Activity of Tarsus American College" by Meral HALIFEOGLU.
Published in 2007.
Please see link: https://openaccess.firat.edu.tr›bitstream›handle
The pdf thesis can easily be dowloaded. On page 3 there is a Summary in English.
umutyalniz (talk) 18:35,3 June 2021 (UTC) — Umut Yalniz (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Masters' theses aren't viable sources, the memories of alumni are useless for notability (connexion to subject), and the history book in question has the exact same problem if the writer is/was employed by TAC. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 00:39, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this is one of those subjects that could be notable if one had access to the right library or database. My own search in the usual English sources does not find much of note. The article and the above !k !votes show that there has been extensive involvement of perso9ns connected to the school. --- Possibly (talk) 02:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete appears to have a distinct lack of reliable third party sources and the heavy involvement from people with ties to the organization. zchrykng (talk) 02:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Tarsus (city): While the school itself is not notable – it clearly fails WP:ORG – I think a redirect to the location would be reasonable, if not preferable. Redirecting non-notable schools to their locations is something I've seen occuring frequently, and I doubt that the edit history is not worth preserving; if not, the redirect can be created after a deletion. JavaHurricane 04:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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