The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The arguments seem to be relatively split between keep and merge, so there certainly isn't a delete consensus. To those who still want some kind of merge solution, my recommendation is to try to start a discussion about a possible article structure different than the current one, get input, and see what you can actually build. Though many argued against merging, many argue that the games are notable enough for their own articles, but while that's a good argument against deleting or redirecting, it doesn't necessarily mean that the current structure is the best one. However, there is also some legitimate skepticism of a merge solution, so consensus may not develop in that direction. Mangojuicetalk 17:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Price is Right pricing games[edit]

(View log) Included in this nomination:

$uper $aver (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1 Right Price (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
1 Wrong Price (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
2 for the Price of 1 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
3 Strikes (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Add 'em Up (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Any Number (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Balance Game (active pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Balance Game (retired pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Barker's Bargain Bar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Barker's Marker$ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bonkers (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bonus Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bullseye (active pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bullseye (retired pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Bump (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Buy or Sell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Card Game (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Check Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Check-Out (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Clearance Sale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Cliff Hangers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Clock Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Coming or Going (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Cover Up (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Credit Card (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Danger Price (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Dice Game (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Double Bullseye (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Double Digits (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Double Prices (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Eazy az 1 2 3 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Finish Line (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Five Price Tags (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Flip Flop (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Fortune Hunter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Freeze Frame (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Gallery Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Give or Keep (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Golden Road (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Grand Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Grocery Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hi Lo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hit Me (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hole in One (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hurdles (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
It's Optional (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
It's in the Bag (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Joker (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Let 'em Roll (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Line em Up (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Lucky $even (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Magic Number (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Make Your Move (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Master Key (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Money Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
More or Less (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Most Expensive (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Mystery Price (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Now....or Then (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
On the Nose (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
On the Spot (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
One Away (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Pass the Buck (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Pathfinder (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Penny Ante (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Pick-a-Number (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Pick-a-Pair (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Plinko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Pocket ¢hange (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Poker Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Professor Price (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Punch a Bunch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Push Over (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Race Game (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Range Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Safe Crackers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Secret "X" (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shell Game (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shopping Spree (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shower Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Side by Side (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Spelling Bee (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Split Decision (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Squeeze Play (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Super Ball!! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Stack the Deck (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Step Up (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Swap Meet (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Switch? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Switcheroo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Take Two (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Telephone Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Temptation (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ten Chances (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
That's Too Much! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The Phone Home Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Time Is Money (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Trader Bob (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Triple Play (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Walk of Fame (pricing game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
½ Off (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I realize that this nomination will be upsetting to fans of The Price is Right, but none of these games appears to satisfy Wikipedia's policies on notability and reliable sources. There is no evidence that any of these games have been the subject of multiple, independent published works. Indeed, only three of the articles list any references at all, and in those cases the references are to either the official TPIR website or to a fan website.

Certainly the information contained in these articles is interesting to those familiar with the show (myself included); however, they go into far more detail than what is expected of or appropriate for a general-purpose encyclopedia. This level of detail for television programs is why there exist dedicated wikis such as Memory Alpha, Lostpedia, and the Muppet Wiki. —Psychonaut 02:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just to respond to part of this, no subject "deserves" an article on Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles are not entitlements. As for articles on the characters of Lost, they fall under the purview of WP:FICT. If you find an article that doesn't conform to WP:FICT or other Wikipedia guidelines or policies, please feel free to take corrective action. However, the the existence of other articles doesn't justify the existence of these. Otto4711 17:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If the articles are kept, we should probably do something like making a category to tie them together link-wise. Zahakiel 17:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - my retired list now includes all retired games. With all information from all the articles, and not edited to remove duplicate information, the article would be 64K long. That is not the excessive monster of an article I think people are envisioning, and with proper editing the thing can be brought well down in size. Otto4711 22:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • With very basic editing it's now down to 60K, which includes some two dozen images. I'm hoping that those who're saying that merging the articles would make them too long are taking notice. Otto4711 22:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Um, how does this meet the NOT i.c.o.i.? It's not indiscriminate at all. Let's stay with notability issues. CitiCat 04:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I forgot the inactive ones. If each of then can be reduced to 5-10 lines (providing that the list of inactive games is not too long, it can be merge into one for the defunct ones, but I don't change my opinion about the active ones.--JForget 18:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry, but the notion that editors might edit an article is not a reasonable argument. Editors now can decide to edit any one of these for length. Otto4711 22:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.