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The result was keep. J04n(talk page) 15:42, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Ragbirds[edit]

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My searches have found a few several links (9 pages) using "The Ragbirds Ann Arbor Michigan band music" but it's the majority of it is all local and likewise for Highbeam, there's still nothing convincing for any solid independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 06:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  07:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  07:27, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  07:27, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete non-notable musical group.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:06, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• @Johnpacklambert: Wikipedia:Non-notable. --Cavarrone 08:04, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Did a quick online search about the band and found a couple of links, which I've added to the article, in case this serve as incentive for someone else to research further. Aust331 (talk) 11:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Keep Reliable sources can be local. For example, there's significant coverage in The Oakland Press [1] and Michigan Radio [2]. Significant non-local coverage in PopMatters [3] and The Boot (owned by Townsquare Media) [4]. At least one of these sources claims that their latest album was released on Rock Ridge Music (an important indie label). Significant coverage in The Holland Sentinel [5]. That article claims that their latest album peaked at No. 20 on a Billboard chart, which is true: [6]. So the band meets criteria 1 and 2 of WP:MUSICBIO. Dontreader (talk) 09:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment This band also has a single that peaked at No. 58 on the Japan Hot 100 chart [7]. The article merely needs improvements. For example, lots of claims made in the article are supported by sources that I provided, so they should be used as inline citations. Dontreader (talk) 09:39, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Under GNG, the question is not where coverage originates but whether it is reliable, independent, and significant. The Oakland Press, Michigan Radio, and PopMatters are independent and reliable, and the articles from each provided by Dontreader each constitute significant coverage as contemplated by the guideline. In the alternative, it is beyond dispute that the subject meets BAND Criterion 2. Therefore, notability is presumed under both GNG and NMUSIC, and, as the nominator has advanced no other rationale for deletion, the article ought to be kept. Rebbing 20:26, 5 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy keep passes GNG and WP:NMUSIC#2, kudos to @Dontreader: for his researches. @SwisterTwister: could you please withdraw this nom, and could you please make decent WP:BEFORE (as requested countless times) before rushing with such inappropriate nominations which only turn in a wastle of time for the community? Wikipedia:Competence is required. Cavarrone 08:02, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Many thanks, Cavarrone, for appreciating the effort I made to show that this article is notable! Dontreader (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, per sources found by DonTreader; seems to meet WP:GNG. Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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