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The result was delete. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Gardner (film producer)[edit]

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No evidence of notabilty... nothing on Google apart from this article and no references at all let alone reliable third party references. Teapotgeorge^Talk 20:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been deleted and recreated 8 times before.http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Gardner_%28Director%29&redirect=no&action=edit&redlink=1Teapotgeorge^Talk 21:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - 14 year old film maker with no coverage in reliable sources and stuff that has been placed on youtube. -- Whpq (talk) 14:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Addendum -- I forgot to mention that the strongest claim for notability (not that it is particularly strong) is that he "won the 2011 Keswick Film Festival with his Stop motion Animation short Larry and Steve" which I cannot verify. Assuming this is the festival in question, this would appear to be a false claim as there is no mention of his film in either the open or under 18 category for short films. -- Whpq (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well i was not completeley honest, i have not researched the winning entry of Larry and Steve propaly and i have checked on the keswick film festival website and it does not show, sorry for the mistake, but i have viewed the video and he has sent the video to aardman animations, that i can confirm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggy2746 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - So which "local" film festival was it then? Since you haven't researched it, how do you know? -- Whpq (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My father was a judge there, he rated it 3/5. It was the Longton Film Festival, he retired there 6 months ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggy2746 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone and met Thomas Gardner, he was in new zealand working on a small film with peter jackson, he is a real nice bloke. His stop motion is very good and all i'm saying is, give the page a chance, i mean if its been made 8 times, he must be well known, otherwise people wouldn't make it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovetomg (talk • contribs) 20:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is users only edit on Wikipedia.Teapotgeorge^Talk 21:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete and salt "i mean if its been made 8 times, he must be well known" - no. It means he and his school mates are persistent and won't quit posting this rubbish. Lads, believe me. You are NOT going to get this article to stay here. We might give something a chance if it came really close to the notability standards. This doesn't, and no related article that I've seen did either. "Gone and met" him - yeh. On your way to school. 3/5 at the Longton Film Festival? 3/5 at Cannes may be something of note. Which Longton? Or should that be Longtown? Any evidence apart from your dad (who only gave your mate 3/5? Shame on him!)? Be warned - continual adding of inappropriate pages can lead to blocking. Attempts to beat blocking in the course of vandalism can lead to banning. Telling lies doesn't do your case any good either. In New Zealand and "working on a small film with peter jackson" - is that the Peter Jackson of LOTR, or the one who videos weddings as a sideline to his computer repair business? "His stop motion is very good" - could be true. We've no evidence either way. But being good isn't enough without achievement and coverage in independent sources. You have to be very, very good to get anywhere beyond self-publishing on YouTube - and you have to have luck. There's few openings in the UK at present. When Thomas has actually achieved something worth noting (and which is provable independently to fit our standards), and assuming you all haven't been blocked, try then. That won't be for 10 years, and after a lot of training. And luck. Remember that Wikipedia is free, but it isn't free webspace. Stick to MySpace, Facebook and such for now. Peridon (talk) 18:02, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was Peter Jackson from LOTR and I'm not a friend of his, just an admirer of his short films, which you will eventually say where did you see them, it was Longton not longtown and that bit when you said from my comment gone and met him, there was no need to make fun of it by saying on your way to school, I'm 24 for fuck sake. And when I met him and I did meet him, he said that he doesn't like his video on youtube because he never really wanted it published.

Please sign your posts with~~~~. As I asked above - which Longton? Can you supply a reference for the festival? If you are 24, my apologies. I was assuming that you were at school like Thomas presumably is. If he is as notable as you claim, there will be evidence for it outside of your opinion - which doesn't count as you are (so far as we can tell) not a reliable source according to WP:RS. Give us the evidence and make us look daft. Peridon (talk) 19:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nominator. Considering the repeated re-creation of the article, Salt as well. Edward321 (talk) 00:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.