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The result was speedy delete as WP:CSD#G5. ✗plicit 11:07, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources fail to demonstrate pass of WP:GNG or WP:NCOMP nearlyevil665 06:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. nearlyevil665 06:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. nearlyevil665 06:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table:
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
http://www.military-informer.narod.ru/pvo-kolchuga.html	Looks like an independent military niche website	? Unclear	The article is about Kolchuga passive sensor, the company is mentioned in the last paragraphs as the manufacturer of said system	✘ No
https://informnapalm.org/ua/osnovni-dosyagnennya-oboronno-promyslovogo-kompleksu-ukrayiny-za-2017-rik-chastyna-iii/	? Self-stated to be run by volunteers, unclear editorial oversight. Either way mentions the company once in passing. This article is about achievements of Ukrainian defense military in 2017	? Unclear	No	✘ No
https://glavcom.ua/interviews/130696-direktor-donetskogo-%C2%ABtopaza%C2%BB-jurij-rjabkin-%C2%ABkolchugi%C2%BB-my-uspeli-vyvezti.html	Interview piece	Reliable media	Interview with representative of the company	✘ No
https://ukurier.gov.ua/uk/articles/oleksandr-ponomarov-ukravshi-zavod-rosiyani-poveli/	This is an interview piece in a reliable newspaper	This is an interview piece in a reliable newspaper	This is an interview piece in a reliable newspaper	✘ No
https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2016/08/topaz.html	? Unclear independence	? Unclear reliability	Just run-off-the-mill coverage of company ownership transfer	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using ((source assess table)).

nearlyevil665 06:01, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per nom. Also possible UPE. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Per nom can't see any reliable coverage. Sanketio31 (talk) 11:34, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep I added some significant sources. It's definitely not a UPE created article as it's an article about a defunct plant in occupied by Russia-backed terrorists Donetsk. It's a part of military history of Soviet Union, Ukraine and Europe, as Topaz was producing the famous Kolchuga passive sensor. This plant is also a part of modern Russo-Ukrainian war as it was blatantly seized and moved to Russia. That's why I decided to shed a light upon this subject and ask you not to consider this translated from Ukrainian wikipedia page as a page about a private for-profit company, but mere a part of a military history of Europe. --Sharky tale (talk) 09:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC) stuck sockpuppet--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 05:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for adding the sources. Unfortunately, they still qualify as run-off-the-mill and trivial mentions of the plant. I would suggest a possible merge with Kolchuga passive sensor.

nearlyevil665 10:03, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

merging is also a nice decision as the plant is quite notable and the information should be kept. thanks for your comment. --Sharky tale (talk) 10:11, 3 June 2021 (UTC) stuck sockpuppet--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 05:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

however, the article about Kolchuga passive sensor is not much better sourced. So, it will be a stragne decision to merge the article about the plant to the article about it's product. It's like to merge Apple to iPhone. --Sharky tale (talk) 07:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC) stuck sockpuppet--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 05:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Appears to be notable and well-sourced enough. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Have you seen the source assessment table? Could you kindly point out which references you think are qualifying - I'd add them to the table. nearlyevil665 15:54, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with Kolchuga passive sensor as WP:ATD. HighKing⁺⁺
• Speedy Delete G5 (noticed the AfD as I was about to tag). Created by a sockpuppet of Bodiadub ([1]) and all substantial edits are by sockpuppets (creator + [2]). The topic is borderline notable, and there is an issue of UPE here. WP:DENY.--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 05:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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