The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 08:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A bike race of uncertain notability, no sources cited for its existance. Was speedied (improperly) by me as CSD A7, then re-created. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 04:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete (I nominated it for speedy.) Appears to be some guys doing a pub crawl on bikes. Five participants the first year, four the next. May be "challenging" (it can be hard to ride when drunk), but not notable or verifiable. Fan-1967 04:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Not notable?!?! Listen folks, the Tour de Kits is simply in its beginning stages. You need to give it time to grow into a beautiful flower. You know what else wasn't 'notable' or 'verifiable' for the first couple years after its birth? Jesus. Had wikipedia and you editing-nazis been around 2000 years ago the world may never have seen the growth of Christianity and all that is good associated with it (i.e. Christmas). Leave well enough alone. Give the Tour some time. I guarantee this year's Tour will be the best ever and have more participants. Just give it time to grow.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eboli (talk • contribs) Note Mistagged, actually entered by 154.20.119.196 (talk · contribs)

  Is whatever there is in the article verifiable? In other words, are there any reliable sources (e.g. newspapers, magazines) that have already covered this race/tour? If the answer is no, Wikipedia cannot have an article on it just yet. Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 04:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  That was a pretty rediculous comment, Eboli, and it goes contrary to WP:NOT a crystal ball. Your personal opinion aside, there are several policies that directly shoot down the grounds you cite for keeping this article. (|-- UlTiMuS 04:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per myself above. (|-- UlTiMuS 04:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, fails WP:V, suspected WP:VANITY, WP:NOT a crystal ball for something "simply in its beginning stages"... maybe it'll be as notable as Jesus someday, and then it'll get an article. --Kinu ^t/_c 04:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Kinu. CindyLooWho 05:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete until it evelvoes into a major world religion. --Musaabdulrashid 06:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• I was going to just pass this over, but that mind-boggling "beautiful flower" comment could not be ignored. Delete as a textbook failure of WP:NOT. Danny Lilithborne 07:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Kinu. —Khoikhoi 08:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• It's obvious that this page is going to get killed without my say, but since the article is so awful, and since Eboli decided to call us nazis, it gets one more request for deletion. -- Kicking222 12:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete ST47 12:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and submit rebuttal to WP:BJAODN. Seriously, comparing a bike race to Jesus? --Wafulz 15:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Let's be completely honest: comparing a drunken bike race to Jesus. Fan-1967 15:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete since the only user voting keep needs to resort to cheap shots and bad analogies to make their case that means that they obviously having nothing worthwhile to offer to this debate. On a personal note I am positive that Jesus or Christianity would not have stopped their mission if an acient version of Wikipedia did not find them notibale at one point in time. --Edgelord 17:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Having been witness to the creative and impressive planning and execution of the Tour de Kits I would argue that events like this do deserve to be where people can access and learn more about the feats of its participants. The Tour is a challenging adventure that can really only be described as a Journey for those who participate. It ultimately comes down to mixing the achievement of personal goals with the emotional and intellectual bonding between men and women of all backgrounds and beliefs. The participants listed are only a few of the many people who have participated in the event at various stages, sharing in the successes and travails of those biking. The Tour de Kits exemplifies the kinds of challenges that go beyond drunken nights with random acts of ridiculous behavious. The Tour de Kits is an impressively executed race at which only true athletic intellectuals will find themselves victorious. ~Tour Enthusiast~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 137.82.21.122 (talk • contribs) .
  • Comment: No, nothing really "deserves" to be on Wikipedia if it does not comply with policy, such as WP:V. Reliable sources carry significantly more weight than impassioned claims around these parts. --Kinu ^t/_c 19:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Along with the notability and verfiability problems, I find it hard to keep an article of a subject whose defenders insist You need to give it time to grow into a beautiful flower. Wikipedia is supposed to list events that are already notable, not those that you think could be. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 18:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and remind me not to be in Kits during the next time this event takes place, lest I wind up with puke on my shoes. *headshake* Pub crawls are not notable, kids. (Does this make me an editing Nazi? That'd just round out my week perfectly, that would.) Tony Fox (arf!) 20:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Just wanted to say that I didn't call you Nazi's I edited that comment to put the bullet in and it assigned it to me. I vote keep though. Eboli— Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.19.182.195 (talk • contribs)

:Please not above user has already voted. This vote need to be disrgarded. --Edgelord 02:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly. The earlier comment was from a totally different IP. Eboli just tagged it as a Keep. I've updated the tag. Not that it matters. No way the article's going to be kept. Fan-1967 03:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. Please disregard my previous comment. --Edgelord 17:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.