- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. It should not need to be said that this does not preclude editors taking further action such as merging, redirecting, or otherwise via the usual editorial processes such as discussion on the talk page or WP:BB. Stifle (talk) 11:29, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Umbrella Ultra Marathon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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Contested prod with no reason provided for the removal of the notice. The only relevant sources about this event aside from background information are from Facebook and strava, hardly reliable sources. _dk (talk) 17:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 17:42, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 17:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep re. contested prod Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Objecting giving a reason is "...encouraged, but not required". Article not beyond saving because of lack of sources. In such instances the thing to do is to tag the article with ((unreliable)) or ((unreferenced)) first and then PROD if no improvements are forthcoming. In any event the marathon was covered by mainstream HK news sources including on television by TVB news, in the local press by SCMP and by the international press agencies, e.g.:-
- Just googling Umbrella Ultra Marathon in news will turn up loads of ghits, as does googling "傘超級馬拉松":-
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- There are also WP:NOTNEWS concerns that I have that I should add now. What notability does this marathon have independent of the protests? _dk (talk) 18:56, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:42, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- In general I would like to say that individual one off events may have a notability that qualify them for inclusion in an encyclopaedia, even though Wikipedia is not a running chronicle of such instances; however in this case may I suggest a merge into 2014 Hong Kong protests, if greater notoriety accrues to the event it can always be spun back out into its own article.--KTo288 (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I am adding references and extra content now. Some related articles have been linked, included the 2014 Hong Kong protests and the Occupy Central with Love and Peace. One reason I think it should not be merged to 2014 Hong Kong protests is, it cannot be regarded as an illegal event by police which contrast other activities in the Umbrella Movement. Many related running events were triggered after this. --Kaikeung(talk) 15:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- If related events were triggered, wouldn;t it be better to do a combination article on them? DGG ( talk ) 04:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 09:24, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- My view is that far too much content has been lumped into 2014 Hong Kong protests already. Current content includes chronology, specifics about locations, artworks etc. It would be better if that article gave an overview, and in-depth content was transferred into separate articles about significant events (eg 26 September Confrontations, Lion Rock Banner, Marathon), locations (Umbrella Square, Mongkok etc), Umbrella Man and so forth. Kaffiend (talk) 03:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 11:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, merge or redirect - As I have stated multiple times, 2014 Hong Kong protests is getting to be a long article. Without looking at all of the references, I feel that many of them are published by reliable sources. For these reasons, I feel that deletion is not a good option, as the article is related to the protests. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:20, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. There are sufficient sources to indicate that this topic is at least borderline notable. It is notable in the context of the Umbrella revolution, as part of the efforts to publicise the quest for democracy in HK, and hasn't been adequately dealt with in the main article about the protests and is unlikely to be, due to space and weight constraints. -- Ohc ¡digame! 08:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Fails the WP:Notability (events) test. STSC (talk) 18:42, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to 2014 Hong Kong protests. The content could live better in the context of the protests, though it might be sufficiently notable without regard to the protests, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.81.255.41 (talk) 13:23, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete no evidence this meets WP:EVENT, article too long for a proper merge, no substantial news coverage. A one sentence mention is fine. Secret account 23:12, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.