- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Megan (album) as a sensible ATD. Owen× ☎ 22:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Where Them Girls At (Megan Thee Stallion song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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This is an album track with no coverage outside of its parent album. A few low chart positions (the New Zealand one not even on the main chart of that country) is not enough to sustain an article. I am nominating this because my redirection of the article was reverted. This should be redirected to Megan (album) as it fails WP:NSONGS: "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability" and re: point 1, that charting only indicates that a topic may be notable, not that it is. Ss112 19:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Megan (album) per nomination. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:47, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Megan (album). I agree with the nominator's rationale. Aoba47 (talk) 17:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Outside of "Mamushi" and "Otaku Hot Girl", "Where Them Girls At" has been considered a future single (and has charted as such), and was more importantly recommended by her fans on X (formerly Twitter) as the landslide choice for the next music video. At bare minimum the page should remain as an album promotional single as it has received early airplay on several Urban radio stations. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 15:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- So you're arguing based on potential future notability? I mean, maybe, but we can't keep based on that. It can always be restored in the future if this happens (and comes with reliable coverage/other signifiers of notability), but not if it hasn't happened yet. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No. I'm arguing current notability with a potential for increased prominence as the album campaign continues. It seems the only thing separating a song like this (charted, early airplay, better streaming numbers than a majority of the other album tracks, received attention as an early standout on album release day) from a Taylor Swift album track that inevitably charted when the whole project did and received its own page is ... personal preference. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 03:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This song has received lots of plays on radio and streaming service. Even if it doesn't end up getting a music video or becoming a single it still has already gotten some charting and been relatively successful. MC-123 (talk) 00:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As stated in the nomination: charting does not mean a song needs an article, and WP:NSONGS states charting is only an indication of notability. There are lots of album tracks with millions of streams out there. It doesn't mean they're notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia. Ss112 22:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you provide sources that talk about the song? Being played lots isn't really what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 23:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 19:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Non-notable song, no critical coverage, has not charted nor won a Grammy. Coverage is strictly limited to album reviews where this track is mentioned. Not meeting notability... Being a "future hit", isn't good enough. Crystal ball applies. Oaktree b (talk) 23:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It has charted on both national charts and radio-fueled airplay charts. Saying it has not charted is a very bold claim to make when the chart placements are prominently located on the very page you have voted to delete. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Trainsskyscrapers: What is the radio-fueled airplay chart you speak of? None of the three charts listed on the article are primarily or solely airplay charts. Ss112 06:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Those were not present when I !voted. Ok it's charted, but we need sourcing that talks about it. Charting hints at notability, but it's not a free pass. Oaktree b (talk) 22:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Oaktree b: To be clear, the charting was there when I nominated the page for deletion/redirection. Ss112 04:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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