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April 15

Category:Dykes

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 12:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Dykes to Category:Dikes
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Change spelling to match main article Dike (construction). While the word may be spelled "dyke", for better or for worse that spelling is more often than not used in the sense of Dyke (slang), so it's probably best to change the spelling to avoid any confusion. I note that "dyke" is the usual UK spelling and "dike" is the usual US spelling, which is why I didn't just speedy this one. On a personal level, I typically use UK spelling but I would tend to use "dike" in this case for the above reason. Notified creator with ((subst:cfd-notify)) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Professional Sports Busts

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 15:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Professional Sports Busts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Inherently problematic and based solely on opinion. Who determines which athletes were a bust? xanderer (talk) 21:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Taiwanese Mandopop singer-songwriters

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus, either here or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Modern Chinese music, where a category discussion is underway. Kbdank71 13:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Taiwanese Mandopop singer-songwriters (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Mandopop singer-songwriters is for all Mandopop s-s, regardless of location. Taiwanese Mandopop s-s fall under "Taiwanese singer-songwriters". There is no need to further subordinate the Mandopop singer-songwriter category when there few members in there to begin with. Pandacomics (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep unless a better category tree management scheme is proposed. It was introduced to try to prune the entire Category:Chinese singers category into a more manageable tree. I see no proposal here, and until there is one, I'd say keep it. --Nlu (talk) 04:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Did you at least take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Modern Chinese music/Categories? We have a Wikiproject for a reason. Pandacomics (talk) 05:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Indeed no consensus was even asked of before Nlu decided to mass recategorize by his own will. Pandacomics (talk) 05:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This would be a valid criticism if there already is a proposal on the table to reorganize what was quickly becoming an unmanageable category tree, but that was not what was happening. I don't think it is fair that I should be villified for cleaning it up. If there is a better scheme to reorganize it, let's hear it. --Nlu (talk) 05:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - If you had not already been asked more than once to discuss before acting (let alone "acting" in such a huge, unilateral manner), your above comment would hold some weight. We're a community. Join it. Badagnani (talk) 05:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Final Fantasy: Unlimited

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Doczilla STOMP! 06:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Final Fantasy: Unlimited (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: The image category has one image in it, and the only thing in this category is Final Fantasy Unlimited itself, so upmerge. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was the original creator of the category. I agree with the rationale. I was hoping to create more articles, but never did. --Pinkkeith (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Author is ok with deletion.--Lenticel (talk) 22:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Final Fantasy: Unlimited images

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Kbdank71 13:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Final Fantasy: Unlimited images (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Has one image in it, upmerge. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to Category:Final Fantasy.--Lenticel (talk) 22:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fraudsters

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Kbdank71 13:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Fraudsters to Category:to be determined by consensus
Nominator's rationale: Process nomination. This was tagged with ((POV)) with a suggestion on the talk page to rename to People convicted of fraud. I am nominating it here to bring about a resolution to the issue. User:BirgitteSB|Birgitte]] 17:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Note Previous discussion - No concensus to change to "convicted of ..." Nov 05.


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Category:Holocaust perpetrators

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Holocaust perpetrators to Category:to be determined by consensus
Nominator's rationale: Process nomination. This was tagged with ((POV)) with a suggestion on the talk page to rename either Holocaust architects or Holocaust participants. I am nominating it here to bring about a resolution to the issue.<BirgitteSB 17:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, but if they are bothered, let them do their own nomination, I say. Johnbod (talk) 03:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, this is not a loaded POV word. This word is normally applied to crime, and Holocaust was a crime against humanity.Biophys (talk) 03:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seeing as this was merely a "Process nomination" that has not received any actual support, this should be Speedy Closed if possible, imo. Cgingold (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree.Biophys (talk) 03:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Al-Ansar Players of Past and Present

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Al-Ansar (Lebanon) players. Kbdank71 13:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Al-Ansar Players of Past and Present to Category:Al-Ansar players
Nominator's rationale: Per other cat tree system. Matthew_hk tc 13:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Collaborators

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on apr 23. Kbdank71 13:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pro-Japanese collaborators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Nazi collaborators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Feel free to tweak & improve on these suggestions. Cgingold (talk) 09:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Collaborationists

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on apr 23. Kbdank71 13:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Collaborationists (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Stalinist collaborators (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Inherent POV problematic. Also, it is only subcat to WWII categories, but 'collaborationists' is not a term uniquely used for WWII. I would, personally, say that Hamid Karzai is a 'collaborationist', but it would be highly dubious to categorize him as such on wikipedia. The 'Category:Stalinist collaborators' subcat is also tagged for cfd, it is largely redundant to Category:Communists. Not sure what to do what the other two subcategories, but I think a rename might be in order for the Japanese subcat. Soman (talk) 08:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about renaming it "Collaborationists during World War II"? Tazmaniacs (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That would be one way, since 'collaborationists' is a rather well-defined term in Western historical debate on WWII. However, the problem with the term is that history is largely written by victors, even more so in times of war. The term is extensively used to describe one side in the war, but theoretically it could equally used to describe others as well. I'm not sure what is the best solution here, but tagging Enver Hoxha (whose action during WWII was to organize Partisan struggles) as a 'Stalinist collaborator' is shows that there is an inherent pov issue here. --Soman (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I've just added the other two sub-categories so we can deal with these at the same time. Cgingold (talk) 09:23, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rumiko Takahashi

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 13:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Rumiko Takahashi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category for a single manga-ka (also improperly categorized under the artist of the painting variety). We do not have any other categories for manga writers that I know of. Manga is generally categorized genre, demographic, topic, etc, but not writer. This seems like excessive amount of categorization for a small handful of articles. Collectonian (talk) 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid keep reason. There are several other popular manga-ka with no categories. Osamu Tezuka is a rare exception by the sheer number of articles related to him because he was also a producer and animator. Rumiko Takahashi doesn't come close to that and is purely a manga creator. Giving her a category is just excessive categorization of a few articles already covered in her own article and with her template ((Rumiko Takahashi)) Collectonian (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There should be a category to keep all of the Takahashi works and related articles together. It will help anyone who is looking just for a list of her works, rather than having to read the entire article.--Mynameisnotpj (talk) 03:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
She already has a template which lists her few works. Collectonian (talk) 03:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Except that it does not mention several things, such as the Category:Ranma ½ and the other categories, and all of the things that are included in them. While the Takahashi category may only have about ten articles in it, that does not mean that is all there is that is related to her.--Mynameisnotpj (talk) 03:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't need those categories, the articles as the topic not the categories. Collectonian (talk) 03:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The only problem there is that there is no Category:Manga by author because except for a small handful, like Takahasi, Yuu Watase, etc, most only have one or two series in Wikipedia. Do you think there are enough to make it worthwhile to make such a category, and populate it?Collectonian (talk) 04:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe... I don't know... How many artists (and manga series) would be enough to justify a "Manga by author" category? Some than could make the category worthwhile (read: those that have more than "one or two series in Wikipedia") are Shotaro Ishinomori, Mitsuteru Yokoyama, Leiji Matsumoto, CLAMP, Go Nagai and Kazuo Koike.--Nohansen (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Every thing in there is one of her manga series, the larger ones have their own categories due to the number of articles about the series and their anime counterparts but they are all still just a list of her manga series. Collectonian (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rumiko Takahashi manga

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 13:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Rumiko Takahashi manga (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplicate of Category:Rumiko Takahashi, which is also nominated above. Collectonian (talk) 03:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It should be noted that Mynameisnotpj was the creator of this category. As for the comment, no, it doesn't. There e is nothing else related to her. She writes manga, the exact same stuff in this category is what is in the main except for one template ((Rumiko Takahashi)). It is purely redundant. Collectonian (talk) 03:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You do realize that this category, if filled with that name, would be the EXACT same as the one above? Collectonian (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is not true. Category:Rumiko Takahashi has several subcategories which are not subcats of Category:Rumiko Takahashi manga. I would say you have not understood categories. It may be that all the articles in the top level are also in Category:Rumiko Takahashi manga in which case they could be removed from the top level (which doesn't need cfd). -- roundhouse0 (talk) 00:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Takahashi only writes manga, nothing else. Not novels, or anything else. So anything in her category would be manga. Anything else is likely miscategorized. The only reason Takahashi has more subcats than Takahashi manga is because they haven't been added yet. Those are all manga series she has written, just like EVERYTHING else in the main Takahashi category (except her template), so if this is kept basically everything would be moved to it and the other would be empty except for this and the template, which would just be needless and silly excessive subcategorizing. Collectonian (talk) 00:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't then understand why you wish to delete both. If they are duplicates we should be merging them, not deleting both (and leaving their various subcategories floating helplessly, crying out for their deceased parents). -- roundhouse0 (talk) 13:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Templates are not substitutes for, or rivals of, categories. Categories can be used for browsing - one can't browse a deleted category. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 00:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites)

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The result of the discussion was: Nomination withdrawn; creator created article and requested category be speedily deleted. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to article Category:History of The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites) to article History of The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Creator's opinion: I wasn't even paying attention and totally meant for it to just be a page and not a category. My fault, lets move it as suggested!Jcg5029 (talk) 03:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Emergency medical responder levels

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The result of the discussion was: delete, many of these are already listed at Template:Emergency medicine, the rest can be added. Kbdank71 13:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Emergency medical responder levels (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Listify. These are not really levels but rather types of responders. While a rename might be possible, converting to a list and adding more information would provide a better example of how these articles relate to each other. Another option would be to create a template. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Asper family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 15:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Asper family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This is a category for all of four individuals. It doesn't look like the category will be growing any time soon. Unhelpful over-categorization. Jayjg (talk) 00:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unnecessary category imo. I feel like a tourist (talk) 00:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Helicopter manufacturers in Britain

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 15:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Helicopter manufacturers in Britain to Category:Helicopter manufacturers of the United Kingdom
Nominator's rationale: Rename. (1) Use "United Kingdom" as name of country, as in the parent Category:Aircraft manufacturers of the United Kingdom. (2) <Company type> by country uses of <country>, as in the parent. Notified creator with ((subst:cfd-notify)) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom.--Lenticel (talk) 22:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom.I feel like a tourist (talk) 00:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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