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Category:Bad Religion sideprojects

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Bad Religion sideprojects (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: As trivial. Several other such "sideprojects" categories have been deleted, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_October_9#Category:Mike_Watt_project_bandsJustin (koavf)TCM☯ 19:25, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:History of Oran

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:History of Oran (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category is way too narrow; Only one page in category — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 18:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National Register of Historic Places in Crawford County, Indiana

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus to delete/upmerge - jc37 03:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:National Register of Historic Places in Crawford County, Indiana (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete, because it's overly specific. See the Crawford County section of National Register of Historic Places listings in Indiana — the sole article currently in this category is the only National Register property in the county, so it's impossible to have any more articles in this category. I've proposed deletion instead of merger with Category:National Register of Historic Places in Indiana because the article is about an archaeological site, so it's a member of Category:Archaeological sites on the National Register of Historic Places in Indiana and shouldn't be in the parent statewide category. Nyttend (talk) 17:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm very well aware of the parent category. You'll observe that most counties don't have their own categories, so there is no relevant pattern: the only pattern present is that it was created by Bedford, whose reasons for creating categories for some counties and not others is unexplained. Category:National Register of Historic Places by county will show you that the pattern is to give only a few counties their own categories; even Category:National Register of Historic Places in West Virginia by county, for a state in which every listed place has its own article, has only a few subcategories compared to the number that it would have if perennially minimal categories like this one were created. Nyttend (talk) 11:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Islands of the Republic of China and sub-categories

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus - jc37 05:54, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging Category:Islands of the Republic of China to Category:Islands of Taiwan, Delete/Upmerge Category:Archipelagoes of the Republic of China and Category:Taiwan island group
Nominator's rationale: Merge & Delete/Upmerge. The decision has been made to rename the Republic of China article to Taiwan and this is meant to reflect that change. I thought this would be an easier place to start then the broader nomination because there are no pre/post 1949 issues; these are islands curently controlled by the ROC. The Archipelagoes & Taiwan island group categories never made sense and are being nominated here for cleanup purposes. Although not part of my suggestion, I’ve also tagged the Category:Islands in Fujian Province, Taiwan for consideration as part of this nomination. (I probably should have waited to create that until after this discussion because, while the logical grouping is sound, I'm not sure of the naming which is in contrast to Fujian Province, Republic of China.) RevelationDirect (talk) 15:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Taiwan and surrounding island in Taiwan Province
  • Several small islands physically separated from the island of Taiwan and politically part of Fujian Province
  • Pratas Islands and Spratly Islands which are physically separate from the island of Taiwan but adminstered under Taiwan Province.
  • The People’s Republic of China claims all of the above. RevelationDirect (talk) 15:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yup, I'm honestly not sure what CMD meant and he/she has been regularly updating on these discussions. RevelationDirect (talk) 15:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • My comment above only applied to the ones you suggested in the opening. The others I think need to be more organised. I'd support merging Category:Penghu Islands if it wasn't for the trickiness of what to do with the county subcat (perhaps that could be removed as it exists in Category:Counties of Taiwan?). The Matsu category faces a similar problem, although the category is in this case so small it really isn't a good category. The Quemoy (rename to Kinmen?) category seems to cover the island more than the island group. CMD (talk) 17:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • My creation of the Fujian subcat (though horribly named) is a compromise that attempts to address exactly the concern we share about islands that are really not in "Taiwan" (the province) but are under the control of the Republic of China while still accepting the new naming convention. So far, it's not making anyone happy! RevelationDirect (talk) 16:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • We may end up with no category for the ROC, and something like "Cat:History of Taiwan" (for the ROC) and "Cat:History of Taiwan (island)". But of course "Cat:Foo of ROC" and "Cat:Foo of Taiwan (island)" is going to be more accurate and more capable to achieve consistency across different topics. Jeffrey (202.189.98.142) (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If it makes a difference, all of the islands (except for the ones in the sub-Category:Islands in Fujian Province, Taiwan) are in Taiwan Province. I'm hard pressed to claim my suggestion doesn't confuse a very clear current category though; it is a good effort to bring over a very confusing consensus from the article space. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's also worth noting it's "Islands of Taiwan", not "Islands on Taiwan", and so it applies to all islands under the control of Taiwan. CMD (talk) 12:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • This isn't a geographic grouping, but a political one. CMD (talk) 12:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Taiwan island group appears to be geographic, but there's an upmerge request on it; as is Archipelagoes of the Republic of China. So whatever this is, it is both political and geographic, so should be sorted in different CFD nominations, this group nomination just makes a mess. 70.24.244.198 (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Category_names#Supranational_.2F_historical_country_categories. --KarlB (talk) 18:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Salvador Dalí paintings

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The result of the discussion was: Rename & reconsider if the rest of the tree is not changed. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Salvador Dalí paintings to Category:Paintings by Salvador Dalí
The parent category is Category:Works by artist (IE Works by foo) and the sister category Category:Sculptures by artist have the format "Sculptures by foo"‎. Other works by categories also follow the same structure (eg, Category:Films directed by David Lynch and not Category:David Lynch films). I'm using this as a test case (I don't fancy tagging 180+ categories if this ultimately gets opposed). If the consensus is to rename, then the others can be tagged for speedy, unless there's some bizarre naming convention for paintings by artists category I'm not aware of. Lugnuts (talk) 10:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're joking! Johnbod (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose No, I just read the nomination backwards. The subcategories for Category:Paintings by artist do have an established format but this one already matches it. RevelationDirect (talk) 15:51, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Could you link to any of these previous decisions that you refer to? And how does keeping the current form makes it easier to find categories on the page? Lugnuts (talk) 14:17, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did look at "What links here" but there are dozens of them.... Looking at the front ends of a list of names is easier than looking at the back ends. Johnbod (talk) 14:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the point your making. "easier than looking at the back ends" what does this mean? Is it policy related? Lugnuts (talk) 06:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Did you even read the opening paragraph? The bit were I state "I'm using this as a test case"? Lugnuts (talk) 17:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks a bundle! Some of us actually USE these categories, and would prefer to do so without having to "run a simple text search"! Johnbod (talk) 04:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How does the proposed rename prevent you from USING these categories? Lugnuts (talk) 06:58, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Any particular reason? Johnbod (talk) 04:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Special administrative structures

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The result of the discussion was: delete, manually recategorising its contents. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Category:Special administrative structures
Nominator's rationale: What is the point of this category? What need is it meeting? It is a pot for stewing the most eclectic mixture of articles ever assembled. They bear no relation to one another. There is no unifying theme. Away with this randomness I say. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Billboard Hot Dance Airplay number-one singles

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Billboard Hot Dance Airplay number-one singles to Category:Billboard Dance/Mix Show Airplay number-one singles
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the name of the renamed chart and the article which has already been renamed to Dance/Mix Show Airplay. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pornographic and erotic works and media

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:23, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pornographic works and media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Erotic works and media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge The original categories Category:Erotica and Category:Pornography were perfectly named and clear. Stefanomione created Category:Erotica by medium and Category:Pornography by medium back in 2008, and has now had them speedily deleted in favour of a new works/media scheme (via G7, which I find dubious on a procedural basis for a category dating back 4 years). At any rate, I argue we don't really need any of these, and they are simply another ill-advised works/media scheme that does little or nothing to aid navigation. I suggest we put these categories back where they were prior to Stefanomione's 2008 intervention, into the main categories Category:Erotica and Category:Pornography, where films, books, magazines and the like can all be easily contained, with a little help from the sort key. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jalandhara Bandha Poses

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 08:59, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Jalandhara Bandha Poses (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: I suspect this is a test edit by a new editor. Jalandhara Bandha can be used in any asana, thus this is a trivial intersection.Curb Chain (talk) 00:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Editor's reply: It is true that this is my first forte into Categories, but I'm still not sure that this bonda is appropriate for all asanas. Perhaps the Catagory for could be held for "Asanas in which Jalandhara Bandha is a suggested variation"?
The main questions are:
  • Can it actually be used with any asana?
  • Is this prescribed?
I don't have any sources (yet? - I'll look) which detail it's use in general, however, it's commonly used in a few particular yoga poses, and not notably used in all (though in theory it could be applied in all?). Can we find a source either way?
(I was actually just trying to update the Tadasana page, and this bandha was recommended, so I hadn't prepared to completely work on the Bandhas section yet ;) ) Supaiku (talk) 00:43, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A Bandha is a lock (in this case the lock is the head adducting to the chest) so it can be used with any asana.Curb Chain (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Category:AsanaCategory:AsanaCategory:Asanas already exists so thisis should not be renamed. Bandha also already exists so Category:Jalandhara Bandha Poses should be deleted.Curb Chain (talk) 07:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Works...

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. There wasn't really a proposal here on which consensus could be sought; this was instead an attempt to gauge opinion. Editors may want to take up the suggestion by to continue the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion; a WP:RFC may help to encourage wider participation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is to nominate all the Works by... and Works about... to Creative works by/about... per Creative works. a legal term The presumably includes the fine arts, rather than just any created work. So would not be opposed to clarify that some way in the names. I'm looking for discussion on the this here, to figure out how best to deal with these - so no categories have been tagged. - jc37 21:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question is there a semi-automated way to tag an entire tree? My nomination of the hundreds of cancer deaths by location cats literally gave me wrist pains. RevelationDirect (talk) 13:02, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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