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Category:Ports and harbours in Uruguay

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In line with similar categories Rathfelder (talk) 20:28, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films directed by John Schultz (director)

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:21, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary to disambiguate in the category name, as there is only one director by this name. nyuszika7h (talk) 19:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Populated places in Lokachi Raion

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:27, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superfluous. Only contains category "Villages in Lokachi Raion‎" Rathfelder (talk) 15:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) involving Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Tavix (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Propose deleting:
  • Category:Battles of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) involving Afghanistan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  • Category:Military operations of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) involving Afghanistan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Don't all battles/military operations in this war involve Afghanistan? Redundant to grandparent categories (Category:Battles of the War in Afghanistan (2001–14),Category:Military operations of the War in Afghanistan (2001–14))Pppery (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that I am in the process of renaming the entire category tree as C2D, thus the final name would be Category:Battles of the War in Afghanistan (2001–14) involving the Afghan military Pppery (talk) 16:08, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to create Category:War in Afghanistan (2015-present) outside of this cfd. I am just renaming the category tree since the main war article (War in Afghanistan (2001–14)) was renamed. Pppery (talk) 16:58, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:McElroy, Deutsch, Mulvaney & Carpenter people

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no supporting article McElroy, Deutsch, Mulvaney & Carpenter. Oculi (talk) 14:15, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Historic district contributing properties

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to rename or delete. An explanation of the category would be useful though. -- Tavix (talk) 19:55, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The name does not convey (to me) what the category should contain. Oculi (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know what the category is supposed to contain, so how can I produce a name? Properties? Districts? There is no article, and no inclusion statement. Oculi (talk) 15:22, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find Contributing property so I suppose this is a phrase familiar in the US, but certainly not in the UK. I would be content if someone could add an explanatory US-specific intro to the top cat, otherwise people will wonder if Windsor Castle should be added. Oculi (talk) 15:43, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That category is for properties that both are individually listed and are contributing properties to historic districts. What do you think would be a good name for this category? RevelationDirect (talk) 09:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After reading McGhiever's comment below (and thinking about this a bit more) I'm still in favour of deletion (although recognising that as the subcats aren't tagged that won't be the direct result of this CFD) per WP:NON-DEFINING (and essay WP:DNWAUC). Example: If an area of countryside is being proposed as a national park then specific places (mountains, lakes etc) in that area might be mentioned in that proposal, but that isn't a defining characteristic of those places. If not deleted then it should be renamed to mention the NRHP. DexDor (talk) 05:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"notable enough for their own articles—and happen to be contributing properties" doesn't sound like this is a defining characteristic. DexDor (talk) 05:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ministers of Oil and Gas (Kazakhstan)

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The result of the discussion was: renamed. -- Tavix (talk) 19:46, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Capitalization. Also follows better the current naming convention of similar categories. Beagel (talk) 09:24, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Makdougall Brisbane Prize

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The result of the discussion was: delete. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:40, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Having received this award is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic of, for example, Max Born. Some of the articles in this category make/made no mention of this award in their text (I've just removed Colin R. McInnes and James Geikie). List of Makdougall Brisbane Prize winners is a much better way to present this information (e.g. it can contain dates, redlinks and further information). Note: Peng Huanwu is in the category, but unreferenced so I haven't added to the list. DexDor (talk) 05:57, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NON-DEFINING doesn't state so explicitly (perhaps it should), but my (and I think most other categorizers) interpretation of it is that (for the category to be valid) the characteristic needs to be defining for all rather than a substantial number of the topics. The alternative would allow articles to be in a category when the relevant characteristic isn't even mentioned in the article text. DexDor (talk) 08:18, 23 July 2016 (UTC) Part struck - as pointed out below that's not the only alternative. DexDor (talk) 13:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you found Bill Clinton in Category:American anti–Vietnam War activists would you remove this category from the article (because it is non-defining for him) or would you seek to delete the category because it is not defining for all of its topics? Perhaps you think he should be added to this category because it is valid for him and defining for other people. WP:NON-DEFINING does not address the matter of which categories should exist. Rather it gives guidance about which categories are appropriate for any particular article. A category may be defining for the topics it contains but for other topics the category may be of slight relevance and so not defining. Thincat (talk) 09:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and the alternative you put forward is not at all a consequence of my remarks (as I think you know). I suggest categorising topics by their defining characteristics. A characteristic may be defining for some topics and not for others. I would never suggest categorising by all characteristics that logically apply to a topic. Thincat (talk) 09:57, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding Bill Clinton: Category:American anti–Vietnam War activists comes under Category:People by occupation so the question I would ask is: is he notable as an activist (i.e. would we have an article about him if he hadn't gone on to be president etc)? This is a borderline case (cf, for example Ronald Reagan who clearly belongs in a category for actors and Clint Eastwood who clearly doesn't belong in a category for golf caddies). Thus, I'd neither add nor remove Bill Clinton from that category. DexDor (talk) 13:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American peace activists

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The nominated category is new. There is an extensive tree for Category:Anti-war activists, but no existing tree for Category:Peace activists. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think it's subjective when they were activists. Just having an opinion is not enough, of course. If someone like Charles Lindbergh (who has been an anti-war activist) later converted he can still be in the category. We also allow conversion from one religion to another in our categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:22, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian rules biography, pre-1880 birth stubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename and re-scope. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:47, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There exists a Category:Australian rules biography, 1870s birth stubs, so we can recategorize that under Category:Australian rules biography stubs and rescope this category. There's no reason to hide that one decade within "pre-1880". ~ Rob13Talk 02:01, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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