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Category:Designated terrorist organizations associated with Islam

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Designated terrorist organizations associated with Islam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This category may initially seem useful. But it largely duplicates the category tree of Category:Organizations designated as terrorist by designator. The category breaches WP:NPOV. It declares, in Wikipedia's voice, that certain organisations are "terrorist". Many of these designations are made by dubious governments with vested interests. For example, the United Arab Emirates has designated the Muslim Association of Britain as "terrorist". No other global government has. The British government hasn't. And yet this category is applied. The Muslim American Society is another example. Even Council on American–Islamic Relations. These categories fail WP:OVERLAPCAT, WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, WP:OCEGRS and the broader criteria at WP:CAT AusLondonder (talk) 22:04, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"If it's a government designating it, how it is "Wikipedia's voice"?" - exactly why I'm not nominating the government designator categories but this category instead. I removed the category from an article where there was no consensus to keep it. You re-added it without seeking consensus. You consistently fail to edit in accord with WP:NPOV. AusLondonder (talk) 22:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Diacritics

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The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Diacritics and split Category:Alphabetic diacritics into Category:Latin-script diacritics, etc. (by language). ~ RobTalk 19:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Is there a difference between a diacritic and an alphabetic diacritic? Category:Alphabetic diacritics is the more comprehensive category, so can we merge Category:Diacritics into it? Dr.enh (talk) 19:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Palmas Pueblo

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Cataño, Puerto Rico. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for two individual neighbourhoods in the municipality of Cataño, Puerto Rico, as well as one additional article which may be falsely conflating those two neighbourhoods into a larger entity that doesn't actually exist as such. These are the only two neighbourhoods in Cataño with separate standalone articles of their own, and the "common entity" article falsely claims they're in San Juan rather than Cataño — but Cataño only has a total population of about 28K, so separate standalone articles about each individual neighbourhood within it may not actually be necessary or warranted. And even if they are kept, Cataño's eponymous category isn't large enough to need comprehensive subcategorization of every individual thing in it — this was originally created by an editor who's since been blocked, in part for obsessively subcategorizing Puerto Rican topics into unbelievably overgranular (and sometimes entirely unverifiable) categories like "Island Republic" and "Foyer of the Capital". Upmerge to Category:Cataño, Puerto Rico. Bearcat (talk) 18:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedian educators

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant, mostly empty except for the WP:NOTHERE-blocked creator having added themselves to it. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Subsidiary Marquessates in the Peerage of England

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These categories contain marquessates which are held as a subsidiary title by dukes. I don't think such a category is necessary. The title of marquess is the rarest in the British peerage, and so even if all of them were to be placed into categories, this still wouldn't require sub-categorization on grounds of numbers. All these articles are redirects to the ducal titles, and so appear in italics in the category. This is sufficient to distinguish marquessates held by dukes from those not held by dukes. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 7#Category:Courtesy Earldoms in the Peerage of England for a similar case. Opera hat (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nationalism by country or region

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category contains nationalism by continent and is described as containing "a listing of nationalism organized by continent." While the whole area remains work in progress, this category's name, currently partly overlapping with Category:Nationalism by country, should follow its content. PanchoS (talk) 13:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Economic disasters

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename to align with article Economic collapse. Also I would suggest to remove the header text and replace it by a cat main template. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:49, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per main article and also because it is slightly less normative. --PanchoS (talk) 11:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Economic disasters by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:23, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, while every collapse is a crisis, not every crisis is a collapse, and these categories combine collapses with more 'regular' crises. Note: if these renames are being implemented, the parent category of each should be changed from Category:Economic disasters to Category:Economic crises. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:50, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mythemes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (I'm ignoring Stefanomione's comments here. His contributions to categories and CFD have been so off-the-wall that he has recently been topic-banned from categories and CFD. If anyone objects to me doing this, let me know. Here, the nomination seems to be sound.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete as a non-defining characteristic. The term mytheme isn't even mentioned in most of the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. We could rename to Category:Recurrent elements in myths. Stefanomione (talk) 16:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't consider that defining either, the articles are occasionally about myths and if so they are seldom about recurrent elements. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Paintings by subject

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:09, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Analogical to Category:Sculptures by subject, Category:Statues by subject ---> More broadly, to Category:Art by subject. Stefanomione (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Paris culture

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The result of the discussion was: Rename all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:06, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming:
Cities in Australia
Cities in India
Cities in South Korea
Nominator's rationale: We should bring these into line with the majority of subcategories in Category:Culture by city and Category:Culture by nationality and city.
There are two widely established variations: While "Culture in" might tend to be interpreted as high culture, it might at the same time be slightly more pluralistic and open towards minority culture. The alternative wording "Culture of" would probably stress local traditions, including "trivial" every-day culture. It might be seen as excluding culture that is not considered sufficiently "typical" of a city, while including local traditions continued or upheld somewhere else.
I personally still tend to prefer the second variant ("culture of") as the more common, less synthetic wording. In article mainspace, almost all overview articles are named that way, see for example Culture of New York City, Culture of London, Culture of Paris, Culture of Sydney, or Culture of Hong Kong.
High culture mostly belongs in the "Arts in" subcategory anyway, so a slightly more colloquial parent category that better covers traditions and every-day culture might be advantageous. It should also be possible to adjust for unwanted connotations by adding some short, clarifying explanation.
Note that the remaining categories, be it Category:Culture in Lyon or Category:Culture of Mexico City would be subsequently brought into line with whatever is the outcome of this CfD nomination, by followup nominations and/or WP:CFD/S. PanchoS (talk) 00:16, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Although the current naming patter (Udaipur Culture) is short and sweet, but if standards say so and if this is going to make Wikipedia a better place then lets make this change. Vishal0soni (talk) 03:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:South Dakota Sports Hall of Fame inductees

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:South Dakota Sports Hall of Fame inductees
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING) and WP:DNWAUC
The South Dakota Sports Hall of Fame is virtual museum and an annual banquet that has awarded 275 athletes (source) of which 12 have Wikipedia articles. There is a catch 22 with many local awards: either you'r not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article or your famous enough that this award is not defining which is why we don't have any other state-level sports HoF awards. There is no main article yet so I created a list of the category's contents on the creator's talk page. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notified Brianhass as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject South Dakota. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:17, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Smile

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 11:58, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Order of the Smile
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
The Order of the Smile is charming Polish award for people who make children smile. Over 1,000 people have received the award but very few of those have a Wikipedia article. What's left is an unusual group: an Olympic swimmer, Steven Spielberg, a Soviet animator, the Dalai Lama, the King of Saudi Arabia, J. K. Rowling, a President of Poland, his wife, Oprah, Nelson Mandela, a comic book artist and a pope. I already listed the contents of the category here. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notified Folks at 137 as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Poland. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:14, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My concern isn't WP:SMALLCAT; it's that 39 (or 200) people aren't defined by making children smile and have nothing else in common. RevelationDirect (talk) 05:49, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think that having this award is a defining characteristic of, for example, Nelson Mandela? And if you think we should categorize by non-defining characteristics then how do you think we can avoid articles being in dozens/hundreds/thousands of categories (with consequent effects on editors)? For more info about my position you can look at this. DexDor (talk) 18:43, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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