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Category:Open world racing video games

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Category:Political controversies in Australia

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The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 09:30, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It is in the nature of politics to be controversial, therefore adding individual people, events, laws and debates to this category is redundant at best and POV at worst. Better to add genuine scandals (where there are credible allegations of wrongdoing) to Category:Political scandals in Australia and remove this category entirely. Mqst north (talk) 10:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that no-one is clear on what is and what is not a "controversy" article is relevant to Wikiain's question of what the problem is. Where a concept is not well-defined, personal bias becomes a big factor. And this can be seen if you actually look at what goes into these controversy-by-country categories. Editors tend to selectively tag politicians, laws and projects they personally regard as problematic. Yet virtually every politician, law or (major) project involves an element of controversy. At best, the categories are incomplete; at worst, they reflect individual editors' POV.
My view is that "political controversy" is, for the purposes of article categorisation, a tautology. Issues enter the realm of politics because they are controversial and therefore can only be resolved by reference to power. Conversely, the nature of political competition renders the people and decisions associated with it controversial. Take, for example, Australia's History wars. These have their genesis in academic disagreement: but prolonged controversy on any topic, even one outside the normal realm of electoral politics, becomes political by its nature, as participants compete for power to shape the debate.
Finally, Oculi suggests that the scandals-by-country categories fit within the hierarchy of controversies categories. In fact, there is an existing global hierarchy of political scandal categories independent of the controversy categories, and these would continue to exist. Mqst north (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kingdom of Sarawak

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Mainly technical request per common use as mentioned by this user. Night Lanternhalo? 10:25, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buildings and structures in Carora

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The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (Talk) 09:49, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles in the category and the article Carora does not suggest there is a lot of expansion possible. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Amusement park attractions introduced in 2022

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Both Category:Amusement rides introduced in 2020 and Category:Amusement rides introduced in 2021 have been discussed in a more recent CfD which came to a consensus to keep and rename. The third category (excluding parent Category:Buildings and structures completed in 2021) is already emptied and will be speedily deleted. (non-admin closure) --Trialpears (talk) 19:42, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Time travel? Doug Weller talk 16:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tom and Jerry short films by year 1940 to 1956

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The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Tom and Jerry short films. Timrollpickering (Talk) 09:48, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of the Year Awards winners

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 09:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF, the award is either mentioned in passing or not mentioned at all in the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cultural depictions of the Yongle Emperor

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, both categories contain the same one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Antidepressants by ring number

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. MER-C 09:34, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think that the categories are a trivial intersection between antidepressants and tricyclic or tetracyclic compounds. There are lots of chemicals with three or four rings that have a variety of effects in the body, so creating categories for the antidepressants that happen to have three or four rings seems unnecessary and trivial. I would be open to creating categories for specific, chemically-related, tricylic classes of antidepressants, like how Desipramine, Lofepramine, Depramine, Azipramine, Clomipramine, Ciclopramine, Metapramine, Cianopramine, and Imipramine are all dibenzazepines, but I suspect that all of the articles in the categories are already also categorized as to the chemical classes that they fall into (The nine articles that I listed were each already in Category:Dibenzazepines.), and the two categories that I have nominated for deletion do not appear to be about specific chemical classes of antidepressants. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 03:02, 12 July 2019 (UTC)))[reply]
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  • Categories for individual classes of tricyclic and tetracyclic antidepressants: that can be done regardless the outcome of this discussion, can't it? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Yes, but these can individually be categories of Category:Tricyclic compounds and Category:Antidepressants. Grouping together a group of genuinely chemically similar compounds whose chemical similarity causes them to have a similar effect on a particular receptor or group of receptors in the brain makes sense. Grouping together a group of compounds that perform a similar neurological action makes sense. Finding a trivial similarity in chemical structure among some of the members of the second group then grouping those together does not make sense. The first is like making a category for a particular monarchical dynasty whose members were related to each other and therefore had physical similarities. The second is like creating Category:Kings. The third is like creating Category:Red-haired kings. The third is a trivial intersection. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 23:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:King of Italy

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, both categories are apparently meant for the modern kings of Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Kings of Italy

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:34, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:11th-century kings of Italy
  • Propose deleting Category:12th-century kings of Italy
  • Propose deleting Category:13th-century kings of Italy
  • Propose deleting Category:14th-century kings of Italy
  • Propose deleting Category:15th-century kings of Italy
  • Propose deleting Category:16th-century kings of Italy
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF. After Otto I became King of Italy in 961 and Holy Roman Emperor in 962, the kingdom of Italy became fully integrated in the Holy Roman Empire and "King of Italy" was a mere duplicate title of the Holy Roman Emperors/German kings. In many articles about Holy Roman Emperors the title King of Italy is not even mentioned in the main text. There is only one exception, Arduin of Ivrea, who ruled independently 1002-1014, but he is already directly in Category:Kings of Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • They should be removed, since they were German people. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category: French Cameroons

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