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Category:Journalism by genre

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear what the difference between a type and a genre is in journalism. Rathfelder (talk) 21:23, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Journalism genres

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:44, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Hard to see a distinction. No definition offered for either category. Rathfelder (talk) 21:19, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Philippine web media

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We dont have any other categories along the lines of "Fooish web media" as far as I know. Not clear how web media differ from websites. Rathfelder (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Methodist church buildings

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Reply If the original building is substantially extant, then I don't see a problem. Otherwise it would be a member of Category:Former Methodist churches. Laurel Lodged (talk) 13:45, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buddhist scientists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:EGRS, unrelated intersection between religion and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How is it unrelated? WP:EGRS doesn't seem to be contrary to these categories, and I believe their inclusion under Category:Scientists by religion is just a valid as, for example, Category:Jewish scientists. --Invokingvajras(talk) 21:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WP:EGRS says "Do not create categories that are a cross-section of a topic with an ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation, unless these characteristics are relevant to the topic. For example, most sportspeople should not be categorized by religion, since being Catholic, Buddhist, or another religion is not relevant to the way they perform in sports." Being a scientist isn't any different from being sportspeople in this respect. We do not have Category:Christian scientists or Category:Muslim scientists either, for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Very well. I'd like to point out that this problem does seem to follow for the other categories, as not all articles included are particularly relevant to the intersection of scientific occupation and religious affiliation (Jewish, either as a religion or ethnicity, seems to provide little weight on many of the persons listed). Although I would argue that one's religious affiliation may indeed play a role in performance of any area, as the ethics prescribed by a tradition may serve as inspiration for the person in question (Both Buddhism and Judaism, as far as I'm aware, encourage intellectual pursuits, which may serve as inspiration for an especially devout person). If an article includes this sort of information, it should remain relevant to the intersection. Perhaps some clean-up is in order. --Invokingvajras(talk) 20:44, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of UK MPs 2017–

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The result of the discussion was: Renamed following clear precedent, 2010-2015, 2015-2017. The only hesitations were in regard to the dissolution of parliament which has now happened. Cabayi (talk) 11:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These lists cover the duration of the Parliament, which is being dissolved next week ahead of the 2019 United Kingdom general election. Thus the final and permanent name for the category should be "Lists of UK MPs 2017–2019". LukeSurl t c 17:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chulalongkorn family

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 November 10#Category:Chulalongkorn family

Category:Yoruba farmers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 6#Category:Yoruba farmers

Category:Category:People educated at Ysgol Aberconwy

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The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 09:53, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: category with a single article that is unlikely to be expanded. Tknifton (talk) 13:02, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Primary source digital libraries

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 11:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Completely undefined. Only 3 articles, all concerned with religious texts, but all in Category: American digital libraries Rathfelder (talk) 08:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Online repository of original historical documents. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are other, better, categories for those.Rathfelder (talk) 20:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which categories? I suppose these will be suitable as a merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There are lots of archive categories which I think contain original historical documents. but I'm not sure what an original historical document is in a digital context. And indeed I'm not sure what the difference is between a digital library and an online archive. Rathfelder (talk) 10:10, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Your understanding of its meaning seems to be the opposite of Marcocapelle's. I dont think it works under this name. Rathfelder (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am striking "weak" in my original "weak support" based on this follow-up discussion. Agree with nominator that it does not work this way. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Maharashtra MLAs 2014–

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:46, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The 2019 Maharashtra Legislative Assembly election is concluding, so the 2014 session is set to end. ミラP 19:40, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Simplified languages

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The result of the discussion was: reorganize per Marcocapelle. MER-C 09:52, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both categories have the same amount of articles, have the same meaning, etc. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 15:12, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Radio

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The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn. MER-C 17:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category text and the parent categories make clear that this is specifically for broadcasting, but this category gets lots of things placed in it such as Category:Radio astronomy. After any rename further tidying up (possibly including renaming Category:Wireless or creating a more general Category:Radio) could be done. Renaming some of the subcategories could also be considered. DexDor (talk) 07:17, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing CFD per comments below. DexDor (talk) 16:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't object to that. However, what would then be the difference between Category:Wireless and Category:Radio? DexDor (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In that case it's probably better to turn Category:Radio into a dab page, linking to both Category:Radio broadcasting and to Category:Wireless. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It would be incorrect to make Category:Radio a disambiguation. Not all uses of radio involve broadcasting (one-way communications). See my comment below. Ikluft (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It would make sense to make the Category:Radio broadcasting subcategory and then move to there broadcast-specific parts including the instruction that it's about broadcast. Then Category:Radio could shed the confusion that has already occurred by being about all topics that radio actually is. I'm willing to help with that once the CfR is over or withdrawn. Ikluft (talk) 22:14, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
FYI - I found a categorization loop Category:Wireless -> Category:Radio -> Category:History of radio -> Category:Wireless. Since that doesn't depend on the CfR, I fixed it by removing Wireless from History of Radio. Ikluft (talk) 23:07, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Great question. The terms “wireless” and “radio” have historically meant the same thing, but British use the former and Americans the latter. More recently, “wireless” has been universally applied to describe modern digital technologies like WiFi and mobile devices. - LuckyLouie (talk) 23:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Unknown origin craters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small category and miscellaneous category. This is not eligible for speedy deletion because I already emptied it out of process while cleaning up various categories into impact, volcanic or explosion craters, which avoids recurring confusion around unspecified "craters". See also the 2009 mass-renaming CfR of crater-related categories which I was the nominator for, which was the first time this kind of crater category cleanup was done. (Do I need to write an essay on categorization of craters?) Ikluft (talk) 05:04, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
FYI since you mentioned it, Commons is the next place this cleanup will go after this CfD completes. Ikluft (talk) 20:05, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The 2009 CFR was a decision to rename all the impact crater categories from "craters" to "impact craters", which was implemented. That consensus does not rule out re-creating or re-using Category:Craters as a parent of Category:Impact craters and the other types of craters. Also, why should the craters of unknown type such as Patomskiy crater not be categorised in Category:Craters? It is WP:DEFINING that it is a crater, and the article Eden Patera likewise refers to "the crater", but you have currently removed them from the hierarchy altogether. – Fayenatic London 22:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I understand you're trying to act in good faith but you are actually promoting confusion from a point of misinterpretation. Of the articles you listed, Patomskiy crater uses the term crater colloquially; but of its 2 references, one speculates about UFOs and the other says a meteoric origin was disproven, leading to questions whether the article even qualifies for WP:N. Eden Patera is satisfactorily categorized in Category:Surface features of Mars until reliable sources sort out if it's from volcanic or impact origin. The article called crater is a disambiguation page, leaving no official WP:DEFINING characteristic for the category to stand on, except also as a disambiguation. The English dictionary ([1], [2]) only supports impact, volcanic and explosion craters. Anything else is not a crater. Please stop promoting the recurring confusion over this topic. It has been solved already and needs to not re-emerge. Ikluft (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
One benefit to result from this discussion - I took this to indicate the question will easily resurface if not answered plainly up front, and added the dictionary definition of a crater, requiring it be caused by some kind of explosion, to the "Categorization_of_craters" essay. Ikluft (talk) 21:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Subsidence craters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 09:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT and insignificant subset of Category:explosion craters. This is not eligible for speedy deletion because I already emptied it out of process while cleaning up various categories into impact, volcanic or explosion craters, which avoids recurring confusion around unspecified "craters". See also the 2009 mass-renaming CfR of crater-related categories which I was the nominator for, which was the first time this kind of crater category cleanup was done. (Do I need to write an essay on categorization of craters?) Ikluft (talk) 04:44, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Motorsports portals

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:46, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only one page: Portal:Formula One. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cricket portals

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:51, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only one page: Portal:Cricket. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:35, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're right here, SMcC. Category:Cricket added to the nom as a merge target. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:44, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Slovenian female comics artists

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The result of the discussion was: speedy-deleted, G7 - sole author requested deletion. Grutness...wha? 15:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Slovenian female comics artists: Empty category. Created by mistake. - User:Kjell Knudde 13:02, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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