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Category:Sierra Nevada (U.S.)

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The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn bibliomaniac15 21:40, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing as nominator. CJK09 (talk) 03:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Strong and clear primary topic; furthermore, provides consistency with the main article Sierra Nevada, which was recently moved from Sierra Nevada (U.S.), with strong consensus, for the same reason.

Pageview and link stats for the respective article pages can be found at that page's move discussion. CJK09 (talk) 23:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the cases of both Birmingham and Georgia, there is a 2:1 ratio in the pageviews of the primary and secondary topic. For the Sierra Nevada, it's a 5:1 ratio between the US range and the Spanish range. CJK09 (talk) 06:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Especially when - like in this case - the secondary topic has its own category, page views are irrelevant, there is too much risk that articles are being misclassified. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Black Women Photographers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 05:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Black Women Photographers to Category:African-American women photographers
Nominator's rationale: Proper terminology in a category of this type is "African-American" rather than "Black" -- and neither "women" nor "photographers" should be capitalized either. Bearcat (talk) 23:25, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is actually a fair point. It is (afaics) an unrelated intersection with gender. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British portrait artists

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn as a new path to keepability revealed itself.
Nominator's rationale: Across the board, all the people actually in either the British or Scottish categories are painters, so there's no useful reason to maintain an artist vs. painter distinction here when the painters categories already existed. And since these are the only "[Nationality] portrait artists" categories that exist at all -- as opposed to the much more highly developed Category:Portrait painters by nationality tree, which again already existed -- the "by nationality" container isn't necessary either. Bearcat (talk) 23:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ivan Aivazovsky

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous small category for a painter without the volume of spinoff content needed to warrant one. Apart from his biographical article itself, which hasn't even actually been filed here, the only content is an art gallery that was named for him, which also makes this a WP:SHAREDNAME violation. As always, every artist does not automatically get one of these the moment there's one related article to file in it -- he needs to have a lot of spinoff content, not just one thing, before an eponymous category serves any useful navigational purpose. Bearcat (talk) 22:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Russian watercolorists

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge in deference to the older category. bibliomaniac15 21:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not an expert in whether "color" or "colour" would be considered more normative in a Russian context, so this can be merged the other way if that would be more idiomatic -- but either way, we certainly don't need both spellings to coexist alongside each other as separate categories grouping different selections of Russian watercolo(u)rists. Bearcat (talk) 22:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The decision should be based on which spelling would be more standard in Russian English, not on which category existed first. Bearcat (talk) 23:07, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such thing as Russian English. Oculi (talk) 00:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Countries where the primary language is not English, but where English is fairly widely understood as a second language, most certainly do have specific rules around which English conventions they follow when they're using it as a second language — so even if English is not the country's own primary language, it's still entirely possible to label it as a "British spelling" or an "American spelling" country. That's what I'm talking about. Bearcat (talk) 04:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a mainland European person, at school I have learned to write "colour" when writing to British people and "color" when writing to American people. In other words, it seems quite plausible to me that Oculi is right in that Russians do not learn either British or American English specifically. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that coping with the mysteries of English spelling variants is even more of a nightmare for people learning it as a second language than it is for native speakers. I dont see any rational basis for decision. Each is as good or bad as the other. So I suggest we go with the older version and the head category. Rathfelder (talk) 12:52, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Coaxial connectors

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: as per main article RF connector; also to avoid hierarchy problems with Coaxial power connectors. fgnievinski (talk) 19:24, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kurdish communities in Syria

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. It appears there may need to be a more comprehensive listing to satisfactorily rename the category. There seems to be a rough consensus to rename, but the proposed target is not clear. It may be advisable to initiate a new discussion with broader scope and a new target name type. bibliomaniac15 21:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Since 'Kurdish communities in Syria' works as a subgroup for Category:Kurdish settlements, we should go for a harmonization Semsûrî (talk) 16:26, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Presumably we need to nominate all these communities categories for renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure there is no consensus about the naming of these categories, since we also have Category:Assyrian settlements contra Category:Assyrian communities in Syria and Category:Assyrian communities in Iraq. I'm becoming more uneasy with the two words 'settlements' and 'communities' since the former can make users believe it's a town/village/city founded by that ethnicity while the word 'communities' can give the opposite impression (minimizing). I was thinking of a third option like Category:Kurdish-populated areas with Category:Kurdish-populated areas in Syria as a sub-category and the same method for all other ethnicity-geography categories. --Semsûrî (talk) 18:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I can support that. --Semsûrî (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scream spinoffs

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no use for this category. Scream doesn't have many "spin-offs". ★Trekker (talk) 12:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs produced by Nis Bysted

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category has been redirected to Song recordings produced by Nus Bysted inline with the general naming conventions for these types of categories. Apologies if the correct procedure wasn't followed to move the category → Lil-℧niquԐ1 - (Talk) - 10:33, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs produced by Mark Ralph

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:16, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category has been redirected to Song recordings produced by Mark Ralph (record producer) inline with the general naming conventions for these types of categories. Apologies if the correct procedure wasn't followed to move the category → Lil-℧niquԐ1 - (Talk) - 10:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deportivo Tepic F.C. players

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The result of the discussion was: rename. It appears from the article Luis Adalberto García that the name Deportivo Tepic was only used in 2017-18, the former name being Coras F.C., so there is no need to retain the sub-cat this time; I will redirect the old name instead. – Fayenatic London 06:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Team no longer known by this name. JTtheOG (talk) 00:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Category page was not tagged until today
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 09:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 12:26, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deceased basketball players

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Deceased basketball players
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING. Throughout history humans have been mortal, and unless transhumanist get their way soon most people living nowadays will be mortal too. Therefore most if not all basketball players (and people in general, including us Wikipedians) alive today will end up deceased sooner or later. I did take into consideration WP:BITE as SomeBodyAnyBody05 seems fairly new to Wikipedia and has invested a lot of effort into this category, but after thinking it over for a couple of days I can't see any rational for keeping this category. We don't have Category:Deceased politicians or Category:Deceased actors. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Presumably for the sake of maintaining WP:BLP. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is odd, but it exists for technical reasons entirely outside of reader use; as noted by Marcocapelle, it has to do with WP:BLP, and the ability to generate technical reports on BLP-related activity. (For example, one report automatically lists people who are categorized as "living" on the English Wikipedia but as dead on other language Wikipedias, so that we can properly investigate whether that discrepancy exists because the English Wikipedia missed the report of their death or because the foreign language Wikipedia was vandalized. Without a "living people" category, however, there would be no other way for us to stay on top of that.) Bearcat (talk) 22:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Protests over responses to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic

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The result of the discussion was: merge. However, process-wise, the first category has been emptied, and the second category has been listed for a speedy rename just today, so it will go through the standard 48 hour wait. bibliomaniac15 18:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Protests over responses to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic to Category:Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on politics
Nominator's rationale: This category has two articles including the titular article. It's either WP:TOOSOON or WP:SMALLCAT. Guy (help!) 11:24, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac15 02:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Restaurants of the year in Finland

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:38, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Restaurants of the year in Finland
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCAWARD)
The Finnish Gastronomical Society gives an annual Finnish Restaurant of the Year. I can't say for sure whether this award is defining but there's nothing in English Wikipedia that demonstrates that it is. I listed the current category contents here so no work is lost if anyone wants to create a main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*RFC There is an open request for comments on proposed changes to WP:OCAWARD. Your input (pro/con/other) is always welcome here. -RD
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Categories for nominees that did NOT win an award

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Timrollpickering (talk) 13:14, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Juno Award nominees
  • Propose Deleting Category:Ivor Novello Award nominees
  • Propose Deleting Category:European Inventor Award nominees
  • Propose Deleting Category:New Zealand Music Awards nominees
  • Propose Deleting Category:Best Actress BAFTA Award (television) nominees
  • Propose Deleting Category:McLaren Autosport BRDC Award nominees
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:TRIVIALCAT and WP:OCASSOC)
Winning these awards may or may not be defining, but we'll argue about that in future nominations. This category is about categorizing people who did NOT win an award, sometimes by themselves and sometimes comingled with actual winners. Nominees are fine for lists or mention within the actual award articles, but doesn't belong in the category space. It might be an honor just to be nominated but it's not even remotely defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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