May 6

Category:Sámi educators

• Propose merging Category:Sámi educators to Category:Sámi people by occupation

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. It mirrors the same well-formed categories for non-Sámi educators. I have added one more category to this and at least two more categories could easily be created to add to this one based on the structure of the category for non-Sámi educators. -Yupik (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Slight lean oppose. I have mixed feelings because it's a pretty common parent category, making it helpful for navigation. (Moreover, I think that Sami educator is more defining than Sami schoolteacher). Regardless, Yupik's reason for keeping isn't a good reason to keep or create categories. Please review WP:EGRS before making more categories. Mason (talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ossetian male writers

• Propose merging Category:Ossetian male writers to Category:Ossetian writers

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Non-defining intersection between ethnicity, occupation, and gender. Mason (talk) 16:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; we already have similar categories of ethnciity/occuptation/gender, such as Category:African-American male writers, Category:Yoruba women writers, and Category:Basque women writers. Categorizing writers by gender and nationality is quite common as well; see Category:Male writers by nationality. ForsythiaJo (talk) 17:32, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per WP:OCEGRS, Ossetian male writers is not a notable topic in its own right. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths from food poisoning

• Propose renaming Category:Deaths from food poisoning to Category:Deaths by food poisoning

Nominator's rationale: Conflict in naming conventions between Category:Deaths from digestive disease and Category:Deaths from infectious disease; and Category:Deaths by poisoning. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose – I think we mostly use "deaths by" for intentional killings, "deaths from" or "deaths due to" where there was no intention. The current name seems to be natural English, but Category:Deaths due to food poisoning sounds OK as an alternative. – Fayenatic London 10:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Animated characters debuting in 1972

• Propose deleting Category:Animated characters debuting in 1972 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Neither of the articles listed here are for fictional characters, but their television shows. I could not find any other entries for this category. If this category is kept, it should be at Category:Animated characters introduced in 1972 anyway. (Oinkers42) (talk) 21:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actors by ethnicity

• Propose renaming Category:Actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actors by ethnicity
• Propose renaming Category:Actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actresses by ethnicity
• Propose renaming Category:Male actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male actors by ethnicity
• Propose renaming Category:Television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actors by ethnicity
• Propose renaming Category:Television actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actresses by ethnicity

Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content of these categories. The diffusing attribute is not these actors' ancestors but it is rather their own ethnicity. Also, this aligns with parent Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 21:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC and friends

• Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 1,201–2,000 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 2,001–5,000 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 5,001–10,000 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 10,001–20,000 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Large category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with over 20,000 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 101–200 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 201–300 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 301–600 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 601–900 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose merging Category:Template Category TOC without CatAutoTOC on category with 901–1200 pages (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC
• Propose deleting Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale:

This whole tree needs a little bit of love. I came here to propose a speedy rename from "Foo CatAutoTOC bar" to "Foo Automatic category TOC bar" following a RM at Template talk:Automatic category TOC#Requested move 28 April 2024, but I think this whole tree needs to be simplified. It is so small that diffusing by number of pages in the category is a hindrance to navigation. I will also note that Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC is terribly named: it only contains categories which use ((Category TOC)) or ((Large category TOC)) directly.

I propose we get rid of the tree and replace it with two categories, one for each template: Category:Categories which use Large category TOC without Automatic category TOC and Category:Categories which use Category TOC without Automatic category TOC. Finally, I propose we delete Category:Categories without CatAutoTOC in favor of a hatnote between the two new categories. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

French violinists by gender and century

• Propose merging Category:17th-century French male violinists to Category:French male violinists and Category:17th-century French violinists and Category:17th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:18th-century French male violinists‎ to Category:French male violinists and Category:18th-century French violinists and Category:18th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:19th-century French male violinists to Category:French male violinists and Category:19th-century French violinists and Category:19th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:20th-century French male violinists to Category:French male violinists and Category:20th-century French violinists and Category:20th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French male violinists to Category:French male violinists and Category:21st-century French violinists and Category:21st-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:18th-century French male classical violinists to Category:18th-century French violinists and Category:French male classical violinists and Category:18th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:19th-century French male classical violinists to Category:19th-century French violinists and Category:French male classical violinists and Category:19th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:20th-century French male classical violinists to Category:20th-century French violinists and Category:French male classical violinists and Category:20th-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French male classical violinists to Category:21st-century French violinists and Category:French male classical violinists and Category:21st-century male musicians
• Propose merging Category:18th-century French women violinists‎ to Category:French women violinists and Category:18th-century French violinists and Category:18th-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:19th-century French women violinists to Category:French women violinists and Category:19th-century French violinists and Category:19th-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:20th-century French women violinists to Category:French women violinists and Category:20th-century French violinists and Category:20th-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French women violinists to Category:French women violinists and Category:21st-century French violinists and Category:21st-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:19th-century French women classical violinists to Category:19th-century French violinists and Category:French women classical violinists and Category:19th-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:20th-century French women classical violinists to Category:20th-century French violinists and Category:French women classical violinists and Category:20th-century women musicians
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French women classical violinists to Category:21st-century French violinists and Category:French women classical violinists and Category:21st-century women musicians

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OCEGRS, narrow intersections with gender, for none of these categories there will be a topic article in its own right. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge all per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OCEGRS. Good job by nom spotting and nominating all this. NLeeuw (talk) 21:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Goldey College football

• Propose deleting Category:Goldey College football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category lacks subjects Let'srun (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male fiddlers

• Propose deleting Category:Male fiddlers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. There is no need to merge somewhere, the subcategory is already in appropriate categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 21:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2024 United States Libertarian presidential primaries

• Propose merging Category:2024 United States Libertarian presidential primaries to Category:2024 United States presidential primaries

Nominator's rationale: Only one page, doesn’t fit with similar category styles Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dual merge, also to Category:Libertarian Party (United States) presidential primaries. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support as creator; initially made for other Libertarian primary articles but those don't exist anymore so a dual merge is the most sensible option. DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin

• Propose merging Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century Canadian people
• Propose merging Category:Canadian trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian trade unionists

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category level with only two subcategories each. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 21:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Architects

• Propose deleting Category:Arthur Edmunds
• Propose deleting Category:Bill Lapworth
• Propose deleting Category:Halsey Chase Herreshoff
• Propose deleting Category:John Hawks (architect)
• Propose deleting Category:Lyle Hess
• Propose deleting Category:Philip Rhodes
• Propose deleting Category:Samuel Sloan (architect)
• Propose deleting Category:Emile Weil
• Propose renaming and reparenting Category:Michael Middleton Dwyer to Category:Works by Michael Middleton Dwyer

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEPON. These categories only contain an eponymous article and a subcategory, so having the subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Whai players

• Propose renaming Category:Whai players to Category:Tauranga Whai players

Nominator's rationale: Whai (basketball) is now Tauranga Whai. I created the category when the team name did not have "Tauranga" in it. The team name is now officially "Tauranga Whai". DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom, for consistency with main article's name (Tauranga Whai). Paora (talk) 09:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dual men's international footballers

• Propose renaming Category:Dual men's international footballers to Category:Dual international men's footballers

Nominator's rationale: They are men's footballers who are dual internationals, the current order does not make grammatical sense. An alternative would be Dual internationalists (men's football), mirroring how the female players cat has been named‎ Crowsus (talk) 09:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support alternative, similarity would be good, and I feel that the alternative fits it better. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 15:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support alternative to match the women's naming. GiantSnowman 15:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anarchism task force participants

• Propose renaming Category:Anarchism task force participants to Category:WikiProject Anarchism participants

Nominator's rationale: It has been years since the anarchism taskforce of WikiProject Philosophy was expanded into its own dedicated WikiProject, but this category has yet to be updated to reflect that. This proposed move is a simple update to reflect the category's current use by WikiProject Anarchism. Grnrchst (talk) 08:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:18th-century German male violinists

• Propose renaming Category:18th-century German male violinists to Category:18th-century German violinists

Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category to include violinists of all genders. Non of the othe 18th-century violinists are diffused by gender and there isn't a 18th-century german violinists category. Mason (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename and re-parent per nom, despite the fact that the French 18th-century violinists are also diffused by gender. It is rather the French males that should be upmerged. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename and re-parent per nom without prejudice. NLeeuw (talk) 21:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Poisoned Romans

• Propose merging Category:Poisoned Romans to Category:Ancient Roman murder victims and Category:Victims of intentional poisonings

Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge as Non-defining intersection between nationality and method of death. Category:Victims of intentional poisonings isn't diffused by nationality. If not merged, it should be renamed Poisoned ancient Romans. Mason (talk) 16:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "Category:Victims of intentional poisonings isn't diffused by nationality." Why the heck not? Murder victim categories are typically subdivided by nationality. Dimadick (talk) 16:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, are you going to diffuse it by nationality? I did't consider the category populated enough to need diffusion. Mason (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename to Category:Poisoned ancient Romans per Category:Ancient Roman murder victims. The latter has enough articles to merit diffusion by type of murder. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am not seeing any opposition to the rename (noting it was suggested in the OP and seconded by Marcocapelle). Further comments – both about the rename and the merge – would be appreciated, but if there are none I would close this as rename with no consensus on whether this should exist or not.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American family lawyers

• Propose merging Category:American family lawyers to Category:American lawyers

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between occupation, type of law, and nationality. Lawyers are not typically defined by whether they practice family law. Similar to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_22#Category:Canadian_criminal_lawyers Mason (talk) 01:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support in principle, there isn't even a Category:Family lawyers. But delete instead of merge because the articles are already in another subcategory of Category:American lawyers anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tokyo Musashino United FC

• Propose deleting Category:Tokyo Musashino United FC (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Striking vote considering below comment. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 09:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I have expanded, so there's sufficient content to justify keeping. However, needs a move per WP:C2D to Category:Yokogawa Musashino FC to match the parent article name. @Pppery and Marcocapelle:. GiantSnowman 09:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]