The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 30 December 2020 [1].


Buruli ulcer[edit]

Nominator(s): Ajpolino (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ga speakers in southern Ghana have two words for skin wounds: fla for "normal" wounds that heal in weeks to months, and aboabone for "abnormal" wounds that linger and sometimes never heal. More recently we've taken to calling these "abnormal" wounds Buruli ulcer. What begins with a bacterial skin infection can become an enormous yet painless open ulcer. The FARC at Chagas disease earlier this year got me interested in neglected tropical diseases, and this is the first one alphabetically. After a GA review by Tom (LT), extensive commentary from SandyGeorgia and Spicy, and a coat of polish from Nikkimaria and Hog Farm, I think it's ready to shine. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Ajpolino (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing is compliant with WP:MEDRS and WP:MEDDATE. I have not done a copyvio check, because Ajpolino does fine work at WP:CCI and knows how to paraphrase :) This is a short, readable and interesting medical article that I hope non-medical editors will engage. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:25, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review and comments on sources[edit]

ALT text, captions and other aspects are fine. At first glance the article's sourcing is properly and consistently formatted. It seems like all sources except as noted below seem to be WP:MEDRS compliant. No spotchecks done, though. Vincent 2018 is a primary source but using it to elaborate on a case that is mentioned by another, MEDRS-compliant sources seems OK for me. MacCallum 1948 is 70+ old but the way it's used in the article seems like an acceptable use of ancient sources. Röltgen and Pluschke 2020 is in a publication by Frontiers Media, which is a somewhat dodgy source - are folks OK with it? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:27, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to say I can find alternative references for the material currently backed up by the Frontiers article. So if folks feel Frontiers publications are generally untrustworthy, I'm happy to replace. I'll keep that in mind going forward. Ajpolino (talk) 17:55, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes Frontiers is dodgy; when it is a freely accessible source to things well backed up by other reviews, I have no problem using it, as frequently the authors are well-established and published within their field. Individual evaluation of articles applies ... it can be justified in cases like this. Alternately, you could add an additional source, but I like the freely available for our readers. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Image review (ec)

Comments Support from Spicy[edit]

I'll read through the article again and post my comments here over the next few days. Full disclosure: I was involved in the pre-FAC review for this article, and I've made a few edits to it, mostly image changes and minor copyediting. Spicy (talk) 13:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overall the article is very clearly written, concise, and easy to understand - an impressive achievement.

Spotchecks[edit]

Since this is a first-time nomination it will need a source spotcheck. I'll consign myself to doing this as I have first-hand experience of how hard it can be to find someone willing to spotcheck a medical article :) Stay tuned. Spicy (talk) 01:34, 21 November 2020 (UTC) Here we go:[reply]

Random thoughts:

I haven't fully reviewed the citations for consistency because I'm not any good at that, but I did notice that while a lot of the sources are open access, only a few have the open access icon. I believe you're required to be consistent on whether you use that icon or not.

...I'm not sure where those open access icons even came from. I guess someone added some "free" parameters into the reference templates at some point? I'm agnostic on the value of the lock icon. If folks feel it's useful I'm happy to add it throughout. If not, I'm happy to remove.
That is an ever-changing bot issue ... I am happy to leave it to the bot people. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No copyvio or close paraphrasing concerns. Spicy (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for taking the time! Ajpolino (talk) 07:52, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My concerns have been addressed and I'm happy to support this article for FA status. I will say that I thought the article seemed a bit brief at first, but I've compared it against recent reviews on the subject and found it to be suitably comprehensive for a general audience; I didn't see anything that ought to be covered that wasn't. This is an impressively clearly-written article on an important topic. Many thanks to the nominator. Spicy (talk) 22:25, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spot checks 2[edit]

For what it is worth, I checked 5 or 6 cites while completing my review and found no issues. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:22, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jfdwolff review: SUPPORT[edit]

My comments and suggestions organised by section. I think it is a well-written and organised article with good referencing. JFW | T@lk 12:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jfdwolff: I think that's everything. Thank you very much for taking the time to read and comment. Your feedback is much appreciated. Please feel free to add any additional thoughts and I'll get to it asap. I hope you're staying well! Ajpolino (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild[edit]

Recusing from coordinator duties to review this.

It is still, IMO, too long. That duplication was by way of more obvious example, rather than the only issue I had in this respect.
No, it needs to go in. It is fine now.
Ah! OK. Feel free to tweak the wording if you wish, but the confusion was probably as much my preconception as the prose - I withdraw any objections to the current wording.

A very neat article. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for taking the time to review! Apologies for the slow response. Work has gone from busy to crazy this month, largely keeping me from my (more enjoyable) work here. I'm hoping to carve out a few hours this weekend to get to your comments and JFW's above. If anyone else is considering a review, feel free to pile on the comments and I'll get to them asap. Thank you again! Ajpolino (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ajpolino, glad to see you've been able to get a breather. I have been hesitant to tackle any of this myself, not wanting to mess up your article, but there are some parts I may be able to do considering your sudden real life busy-ness. Please let me know if you want me to dig in on any of the easier parts, flagging them to my attention, if that will save you time. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Sandy. I've got a few quiet hours right now and am working through these. Will let you know if there are any less savory ones I can dump on you. Ajpolino (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild: Done. Happy to address any further comments as well. Thank you for taking the time to read and review. Apologies for the slow responses on my end. I hope you're well and you've had a restful holiday. Ajpolino (talk) 20:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thank you. Looks good. Just the relatively minor issue of slimming the lead a bit, see above. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:28, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I did some further lead slimming. Happy to slim further if you feel it would help. Thanks again. Ajpolino (talk) 19:44, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That looks fine to me. Nice work. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note[edit]

Nearly five weeks in and only one support. No action at all over the past week, despite unaddressed reviewer comments two weeks old. I am aware of "Ask me for anything but time" and that even FAC nominators have lives; nevertheless, the coordinators are going to be getting a bit twitchy and it would be a crying shame for this nomination to be archived after all of the work which has gone into it so far. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:29, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gog the Mild I hope it is only the current perils of working in the health care field that have delayed Ajpolino; I have emailed him. I will be a support as soon as JFW's comments are addressed. I also could address your commentary mostly myself, but did not want to get in Ajpolino's way. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm all caught up. Further commentary from anyone is most welcome. Thank you all. Sorry to be the trouble nominator for the month. Ajpolino (talk) 20:38, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Drat! Thanks. I noticed them when I first reviewed this - I wondered why I hadn't already put a request in. Too much water under the bridge since then; I focused on Jo-jo's comments at the top and didn't read any further. It looks as if this is close to done then. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:20, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peacemaker67: because this affects Australia, perhaps it will interest you in terms of branching out beyond MILHIST content reviews. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks SG, but with three supports and Gog still to decide, this has probably had enough attention for a first-time nom unless the coords think it needs more. Despite the fact that I am a complete duffer when it comes to anything medical beyond immediate first aid for battle casualties, I am happy to be re-pinged and give it a look if that is the case. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SandyGeorgia Support[edit]

Planning to start in once Ajpolino has finished addressing Gog's comments. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I have followed the development of this article since GAN, and because of my nitpicking MOS fixes, figure as one of the three top editors. Medical editors have reviewed medical content, sourcing is good, all the usual things I check for re MOS are good: date formatting, endashes/hyphens, two duplicate wikilinks which are not problematic, image captions and punc good, alt text and accessibility dealt with by RexxS, convert templates good. I did some minor overuse of however and also redundancy reducing, citations are consistent, clear prose digestible to layperson with no excessive or unexplained jargon, as of dates employed where needed, WP:MEDMOS and WP:MEDRS compliant. This fine effort is ready for promotion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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