*Can you be consistent about closing year format in seasons. e.g. in La Liga winners, you use a full closing year 1928-1929, whereas in runners-up, you use only the last two digits 1929-30. Either is allowed, per MOS:NUM#Years, but just the last two digits is more generally used with football seasons.
- of course. shd be consistent now.
- Also, be consistent about whether or not you have a full stop (period) after each string of seasons
- If the new Catalan Cup is a reserve-team competition, as per the prose, does it belong in the Regional titles section?
- Cannot find source so prose is removed.
- I struggle with the use of italics in the scorelines to denote Barcelona's scores (might be just me)
- to be honest, bold really works well here. IAR?
- Some of your scorelines have hyphens rather than endashes
- Unofficial titles. What is one? For instance, the Fairs Cup trophy playoff isn't a title, it was a game to decide who kept the trophy
- oh yes that's true. Removed. The Pyrenees cup is not considered a trophy by UEFA/FIFA/LFP, but was the most prestigious tournament in which Barcelona participated until 1920 (Murray, Bill; Murray, William J. p. 30).
- Also, I'm not comfortable with the inflation adjustment, the British Consumer Price Index doesn't really have any relevance to football transfer fees in Spain. If there were a Football Transfer Index, it'd be another matter
- Football transfer index? Euro and pesetas are convertible to pounds, so it tells the reader how expensive previous signing where in current time.
- Copa Eva Duarte. Without any explanation of what it is, 1952 and 1953 don't make sense.
And there's no need for the microscopic font size :-)
- Was given without competition as Barcelona won Spanish Cup and La Liga better?
- Still no explanation of what it is: the English reader of a list like this is likely to know what La Liga is, and the Copa del Rey, but less well-known competitions might need explaining
- I've included a brief description. I don't know whether a footnote wd be more aesthetically pleasing.
- Friendly competitions. Do pre-season friendlies really belong in a list of "honours"?
- I'm quite indifferent. What does the people say?
- The general public has no opinion, so away they go. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- References or notes columns in tables shouldn't be sortable
- oh of course not. I'm having problems making it unsortable with the current "width=5%" parameter.
- restrict the overall width. But I'm not sure whether there are better ways of making fixed-width columns: what works on one browser/screensize may not on others. Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge might advise
- Done I believe.
- What's the source for the top five transfer fees being the top five? This isn't just you, I'm generally uncomfortable with lists of "top" transfer fees, on the basis that most of the time fees are undisclosed anyway.
- No source. Shd it be "list of transfer fees" removing top? I see all the other Stat pages have the same problem reg. transfers
- Standards differ, over time, and depending on individual reviewers' attitudes to sourcing. It'd be nice to know why you believe they're the top five, all the same.
- Ah, okay. Well Ibra and Villa has been mentioned in the world top ten, so those two are pretty certain. I've thought of making a more free list of transfer fee progression, which the man utd list uses, but I cannot find any sources for the earlier transfers (pre 1980).
- Image captions: full stop (period) after whole sentences, not after fragments
- I cannot tell the difference. Honest to God.
- If it's got a verb, it's a sentence. If it hasn't, it's a fragment. "Johan Cruyff is the only Barcelona player to win the Ballon d'Or twice" has a verb, "is", so it's a sentence. "Johan Cruyff, the only Barcelona player to win the Ballon d'Or twice" doesn't have a verb, so it would be a fragment.
- By that token the three images starting with Valdes shd be dotted, and so they are now. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Ref #62, the career of Maradona, isn't the BBC, it's h2g2, which is a collaborative project hosted by the BBC, and as such not a reliable source
- found more respectable ref.
- from which you've omitted the title :-)
- titel ->title in parameters :)
- Overall scorers. What's the source for the top ten? The cited source at the Barca website only has top five, and doesn't have any detail even for those five
Oh sorry, seems to be a mix-up, I'll get to it. Couldn't find the original source. I have replaced with a list of top-scorers in Europe (a bit rough, but I'll fix the minor glitches), of which the source is clear that this is the top-scorers.
- I'd expect a stats and records list to have a top scorers in competitive games section. It's hard to believe that this really can't be sourced, for such a big club
- included a table with goals scored only. It is manually updated from then (late 2008), is that ok? Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Prose in general needs copyediting by a native speaker, but particularly in the Players section
- Or if you can't find one, have a read of some of it yourself. The first line of the Most official appearances section reads "This is a list of the highest number of officials appearances for the club. ... In the column "Europa" are included all matches in UEFA competitions." Your English is better than that.
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- Try The "Europe" column includes all matches in UEFA competitions, and the "Others" column includes all ...
- Most official appearances. What does "official" mean?
- excluding friendlies. Including all official (FIFA/UEFA/LFP) tournaments.
- So only competitions "owned" by those organisations are "official"? That's confusing for the English reviewer. But if that's the case, for consistency with that definition, you'd have to move your Fairs Cup titles out of European titles and into Unofficial titles.
- Why is that confusing? What does the average Brit consider an official tournament? Fairs Cup moved. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It's the word "official". When my club entered the Fairs Cup, for instance, they did so officially, put forward by the Birmingham County FA and with the knowledge of the football authorities domestic and international. Towards the end of that competition's existence, teams qualified for it by domestic league position as they do today for the UEFA comps. Just because the current European governing body didn't run it and resented its existence because it took interest away from "their" European Cup, doesn't make it "unofficial". Further, are you sure FC Barcelona makes this definition of official? as far as I can tell, they count the Fairs Cup as the same thing as the UEFA Cup. Certainly on the source you use for the Top scorers in international competitions table, Mr Kocsis has 11 goals in the "UE", and he finished playing 6 years before the UEFA Cup was invented. Strikes me that FC Barcelona's "official" is what the Brits would call "competitive".
- okay, I see. I've changed the list of trophies to only reflect competitive matches, regardless status with FIFA. I've listed the one they try to have recognized as unofficial. I've changed the wording in most app/goals to competitive.
- In the references, there are several months called Jule
- fixed
- Thanks for the review,
I'll get to the rest soon. All should be dealt with Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 07:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- One more comment. Many of the La Liga records have a source that says Barcelona got so-many points or scored so-many goals, but no source to say that was a record. Struway2 (talk) 09:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It's from their own list of records but the reviewer in PR found that unacceptable so I tried to supplement with LFP refs, perhaps I've deleted the ref to the record list in the process.
- So put it back?
- Sorry, I didn't expect you to reply so quickly, normally it takes a couple of days, I was in the process of going through all of the records again, I should have said so. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 18:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yet one more comment. What is the source for the breakdown by competition in the Most official appearances figures? The cited source includes totals only.
- I've deleted the breakdown. I was certain there was a source, but it appears not. Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 18:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've applied same structure, I believe.
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