List of UEFA Europa Conference League finals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 21:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is the newest UEFA competition and has been a welcome addition to the European football calendar. I'm going to address the big sticking point immediately which is that there are only two entries, soon to be three in a couple of months. The competition is new and guaranteed to run for more years to come, so although it's a small list at the moment, it will swell over the years. While I recognise this may be an issue, I do think this fact should be enough to ensure it doesn't fall foul of the guidelines NapHit (talk) 21:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)
- Only one accessiblity issue with the table- you can't use table-spanning cells as a "pseudo header" like you are for "Upcoming finals". Not just for screen-reader software (which won't treat it like a header at all), but even for regular browsers- the sorting doesn't work at all. Easiest fix is to just make that section have 2 tables - "List of UEFA Europa Conference League finals" (which could just be "UEFA Europa Conference League finals") and "Upcoming finals.
- Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 15:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks @PresN:, I've just removed the upcoming finals bit, as that does feel like it's WP:CRYSTAL territory. NapHit (talk) 19:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think, the reason this isn't being reviewed is because there are only two entries. This list is probably better off as a section of the UEFA Europa Conference League article for the time-being. I am going to nominate it for a merge. Idiosincrático (talk) 06:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The discussion is here. Idiosincrático (talk) 07:09, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Review
@NapHit:
- "It was envisaged as a way for UEFA to accommodate" -> "It was created by UEFA to accommodate"
- My understanding is that UECL will shift to the (stupid) 36-team group stage along with UEL and UCL next year. As this list includes future finals, this format shift should be mentioned in the prose as well.
- "Matches are held over" -> "Knockout matches are held over"
- "The introduction of the Europa Conference League into European football was announced in 2018, with the competition starting in 2021." is too verbose, try "The competition was announced in 2018, and began in 2021."
- "The competition aimed" -> "UEFA created the competition in order to", i.e. don't personify the competition.
- "Italian and English have won" -> "Italian and English clubs have won"
- Both bullet points under "List of finals" should be removed- the reader doesn't need to have the wiklinks spelled out for them in a second place.
- The RSSSF source does not mention either the venues (for present and future finals) or attendance figures.
- IMO, future finals should be its own subsection in the "List of finals" section. Putting them in the same table doesn't make sense to me, and screws up the sort in most ever column.
- The "performances" section doesn't have a source- add the RSSSF source here
- Sources look reliable and consistently formatted to me Brindille1 (talk) 01:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comments @Brindille1:, I've got most of them and will get the remainder when I'm back at home tomorrow or the day after. NapHit (talk) 21:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I've got everything now @Brindille1:. Regarding the table, given @PresN:'s comments above, I'm reluctant to model the upcoming finals bit on the Champions League table as I think it doesn't meet MOS:DTT. It does need to be changed as it does mess up the sorting as is. A solution could be to have two separate tables? I think that solves both problems unless I'm missing something. NapHit (talk) 10:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- TIL the pseudoheader is an accessibility issue. In that case two separate tables makes the most sense to me. Brindille1 (talk) 15:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ok split it into two tables, @Brindille1: NapHit (talk) 13:14, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @NapHit I made a few small changes, namely removing the unused columns from the upcoming finals, and adding sub-headers to the "List of finals" section Brindille1 (talk) 13:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Brindille1 (talk) 13:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]