Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• "with an all-star tribute concert " sounds a little tabloidy to me. Can we be more specific/encyclopedic?

Hmm, would it help if "all-star" had quotation marks, since that is how the source uses the term? Or can you think of a more encyclopedic way of saying "with many talented musicians"? --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quote marks would work (along with direct reference) for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added quotation marks. --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• "The first three MusiCares Person of the Year awards were presented to American musicians David Crosby, Bonnie Raitt, and Natalie Cole between 1991 and 1993" reads just a shade odd. The awards were made annually, one per year, to each of these recipients just once. It's picky but there you go...

Is the following clearer: "From 1991 to 1993, the first three MusiCares Person of the Year awards were presented to American musicians David Crosby, Bonnie Raitt, and Natalie Cole"? Since the lead mentions that the award is presented annually, I think it is clear that during each of those years, one musician received the award. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm not convinced the lead is quite spot on. It basically tells me everything that's in the list except for the date of birth/death of the recipients. Could you expand upon, perhaps, why the recipients got the award? Does MusiCares provide citations for the winners?

I was under the impression the lead should simply be a summary of the list (which I think it is); besides, although it does seem a bit redundant compared to the list itself, I was going off the format used for the Grammy Legend Award article. To be honest, I have been trying to find more information about the award itself, such as how winners are determined and why they are chosen, but sources seem to just indicate that winners are awarded for their musical achievement and dedication to philanthropy (or something along those lines). I am not sure what you mean by citations for the winners, but I did not find an official list on the MusiCares site. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with you if this was a fork of a main article, but this is the main article about the award, so I'd like to know a little more about the background of the award. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doing... --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say, though, I am really struggling finding how recipients are chosen. All I can find are the winners and a general why as to why they were chosen. Because it is always MusiCares Foundation representatives providing quotes to the press about why recipients were chosen, I went ahead and added "Chosen by the MusiCares Foundation" to the lead, along with a quick phrase about "Grammy week" (with two references referring to the week-long event leading up to the Grammy Awards). I think this helps because it re-affirms the relationship between the MusiCares Person of the Year award with the Grammy Awards. I will remain on the lookout for a nomination procedure, but it seems to me there is no formal one. Given how the music industry operates, I am sure it has more to do with which big-name musicians who dabble in philanthropy are available to act as a guest of honor for a star-studded event to raise money for the foundation. --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't like bare URLs, even in the infobox.

Changed to MusiCares. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm an Englander, and I'm pretty sure it's not a Nationality. That would be British. At least that's what I write on my landing cards, have in my passport etc. Odd, isn't it?

Gotcha. I was simply using Template:ENG (or the corresponding flag template for each entry). However, I could change the column title to "Country of origin" if you prefer. Again, I was keeping consistency with Grammy Legend Award in mind when I expanded this list. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality and GBR is fine by me. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Changed to GBR, and changed "English" in the lead to "British". I noticed GBR displays "United Kingdom"--if you prefer, I could use GBR2 to display "Great Britain". --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• The template implies that this is a "special Grammy award". The lead just says it's awarded by the same organisation. Am I missing something?

I wondered about this myself. There is clearly a connection, as the official MusiCares site is connected with the main Grammy Awards site. The way I understand it, the award is associated with the Grammy Awards (presented during "Grammy week", given by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, etc.), but sponsored by the MusiCares Foundation (which itself was established by the NARAS). Personally, I think the link should remain in the Grammy template. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestions, as always! Feel free to let me know any other adjustments that need to be made. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]