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Kept.  Reduced to meet "minimal use" criterion. WilyD 15:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zappa_SYNPYG.ogg[edit]

Image:Zappa_SYNPYG.ogg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HJensen (notify | contribs).

• The WP:Music Samples guideline limits non-free music samples to 30 seconds. This sample is 41 seconds and does not provide any reason to disregard the guideline. BigrTex 02:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn - music sample modified to meet guidelines. ~ BigrTex 01:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. New, shorter version has been uploaded.--HJensen, talk 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — Clip is needed to help readers better understand the article's content. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

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Kept.  Sample length reduced to meet minimal use criterion. WilyD 15:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zappa_WakaJawaka.ogg[edit]

Image:Zappa_WakaJawaka.ogg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by DVdm (notify | contribs).

• The WP:Music Samples guideline limits non-free music samples to 30 seconds. This sample is 43 seconds and does not provide any reason to disregard the guideline. BigrTex 02:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn - music sample modified to meet guidelines. ~ BigrTex 01:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. New, shorter version has been uploaded.--HJensen, talk 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — Clip is needed to help readers better understand the article's content. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

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Kept.  Sample size reduced, nom withdrawn. WilyD 15:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zappa_PeachesEnRegalia.ogg[edit]

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• The WP:Music Samples guideline limits non-free music samples to 30 seconds. This sample is 42 seconds and does not provide any reason to disregard the guideline. BigrTex 02:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn. Thanks to HJensen for all of his work in bringing these clips into compliance with our guidelines. ~ BigrTex 01:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. New, shorter version has been uploaded.--HJensen, talk 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: WP:Music Samples specifies that the sample should be less than 10% of the song. I did not make this clear in my nomination. I will not object to a keep decision, but the song is listed as 3:38 (218 seconds), so to be within the guideline, the sample should be shorter than 22 seconds. ~ BigrTex 01:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response 22 sec. version has replaced previous version.--HJensen, talk 16:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep — Clip is needed to help readers better understand the article's content. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

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Kept.  Length reduced, nom withdrawn. WilyD 15:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zappa_HungryFreaks.ogg[edit]

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• The WP:Music Samples guideline limits non-free music samples to 30 seconds. This sample is 40 seconds and does not provide any reason to disregard the guideline. BigrTex 02:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn. Thanks to HJensen for all of his work in bringing these clips into compliance with our guidelines. ~ BigrTex 01:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. New, shorter version has been uploaded.--HJensen, talk 15:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: WP:Music Samples specifies that the sample should be less than 10% of the song. I did not make this clear in my nomination. I will not object to a keep decision, but the song is listed as 3:32 (212 seconds), so to be within the guideline, the sample should be shorter than 22 seconds. ~ BigrTex 01:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response 22 sec. version has replaced previous version. --HJensen, talk 16:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep — Clip is needed to help readers better understand the article's content. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

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The result of the debate was

Kept.  Usage reduced, nom withdrawn. WilyD 15:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Zappa_BobbyBrown.ogg[edit]

Image:Zappa_BobbyBrown.ogg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HJensen (notify | contribs).

• The WP:Music Samples guideline limits non-free music samples to 30 seconds. This sample is 44 seconds and does not provide any reason to disregard the guideline. BigrTex 02:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Nomination withdrawn. Thanks to HJensen for all of his work in bringing these clips into compliance with our guidelines. ~ BigrTex 01:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom — BQZip01 — ^talk 05:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. New, shorter version has been uploaded.--HJensen, talk 15:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: WP:Music Samples specifies that the sample should be less than 10% of the song. I did not make this clear in my nomination. I will not object to a keep decision, but the song is listed as 2:49 (169 seconds), so to be within the guideline, the sample should be shorter than 17 seconds. ~ BigrTex 01:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response 17 sec. version has replaced previous version. --HJensen, talk 16:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep — Clip is needed to help readers better understand the article's content. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 12:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8 as there is no text in the article that requires this image to increase the understanding of the article. -Nv8200p talk 00:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Ppp.jpg[edit]

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• Sure it is nice to have the image, but it does not significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic. Rettetast (talk) 19:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I disagree. It clearly shows the designed interior and exterior of an upcoming system. Once this system is operational, it can be replaced by other images, but as of now, it cannot and meets the criteria for inclusion. — BQZip01 — ^talk 00:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails NFCC#8 as there is no sourced commentary in the article discussing the image or the building. -Nv8200p talk 00:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:PHC Student Center.JPG[edit]

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• Image of a building that is not yet constructed on Patrick Henry College. Nice image, but it does not significantly increase readers understanding of the topic. Fails WP:NFCC#8 Rettetast (talk) 19:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete It is only used in decoration on the page in question. Perhaps on an article about the campus architecture, but not in this context. — BQZip01 — ^talk 00:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP-As someone with direct personal experience of the college, I happen to know that PHC has been promoting the new student center as the most significant development in the history of the school since it achieved accreditation two years ago. Thus an image illustrating what the student center will look like when complete is perfectly appropriate to illustrate this significant development. The image also meets all criteria for a fair use image and has a valid fair use rationale. I could replace the image with a non-copyrighted photo I've taken myself of the building's uncompleted superstructure, but it would not have the same illustrative value.--DebateLord (talk) 00:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  It may have some value, but what you stated above needs to be sourced and annotated in the article for it to meet that criteria. Don't take it personally. I too am proud of the university I attended and I (and others) got it all the way up to featured article status. The image certainly could have its place, but unless the requisite information is present in the article, this image has to go as it serves only a decorative function. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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