Archived discussion for October 2005 from Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.

• HRH The Infanta Leonor of Spain, second in line to succeed the Spanish throne, is born in Madrid. -- 64.229.227.250 04:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Scientists at the Applied Physics Laboratory of Johns Hopkins University have announced that the planet Pluto may have two new moons. Based on surveys using the Hubble Space Telescope, lead scientist Hal Weaver said "If, as our new Hubble images indicate, Pluto has not one, but two or three moons, it will become the first body in the Kuiper Belt known to have more than one satellite." See http://www.jhuapl.edu/stories/plutomoons.asp for further details (preceding unsigned comment by 70.92.160.56 (talk · contribs) 01:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC) )[reply]
  • Need updated content in Wikipedia.--64.229.227.250 04:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • (BBC News) — Instantnood 18:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Police raids the home of Cypriot MEP, Marios Matsakis. Matsakis will be charged with the smuggling of antiquities and attempted blackmail against a police officer. Ok, I don't know if it qualifies as headline material here, but it is the front page of the internet edition of Cyprus Mail (www.cyprus-mail.com, 30 October 2005). Last week, his home was been raided twice by CID and police officers. The European Parliament has lifted his immunity and he will be charged with smuggling illegal antiquities from the Turkish controlled part of Cyprus. He will also be charged with attempted blackmail against a Drug Squard officer. It is apparently an unfolding story, I believe I've found four relevant articles in the newspaper's archive from this month. --Valentinian 11:30, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The Marios Matsakis page could use more content, such as a brief biography. Stubs should not be featured. --65.95.153.91 15:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I know it's still way too short. But I was optimistic and hoped that other users - preferably from Cyprus - would have added to the article by now. So far, no luck in that direction. I would have done it myself, if I had the time. --Valentinian 22:44, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Guinea-Bissau's new president, Joao Bernardo Vieira, announces the dissolution of the government headed by his rival Prime Minister Carlos Gomes Junior, citing the need to maintain stability and national unity. (allAfrica) --Vsion 07:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The Dresden Frauenkirche, an 18th century Protestant Church in Dresden, Germany, is re-consecrated six decades after it was destroyed during the bombing of Dresden in World War II. -- PFHLai 21:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• There is a request on Talk:Main Page to "wipe off" the Iranian president's comment on Israel. I hope this item on Dresden Frauenkirche is good enough to displace it. -- PFHLai 21:57, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This is a great item, and belongs on ITN irrespective of "displacing" anything else. Posted.--Pharos 22:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Hurricane Beta approaches Nicaragua and Honduras as a Category 3 storm. -- 64.229.176.18 09:52, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hurricane Beta, the first hurricane named with a Greek letter, makes landfall on the Mosquito Coast, Nicaragua. -- PFHLai 16:13, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Train Derails in Southern India - Death toll reaches 100 (BBC)

• Need an article in Wikipedia. -- 64.229.176.18 09:47, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Serial blasts rock Delhi 20 feared dead. (NDTV)

• Three bomb blasts in India's capital Delhi kill at least 48. BBC

• Opening of East Asian Games in Macao. (CNN) (CNN) — Instantnood 08:40, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Need content in the Wikipedia article. -- 64.229.176.18 09:47, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon calls for the expulsion of Iran from the United Nations following Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call for Israel's destruction. (Reuters) -- Chef Ketone 17:21, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• As the relief operation of 2005 Kashmir earthquake is facing great difficulties in reaching victims due to bad weather, mountainous terrain, landslides and blocked roads, Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz makes an appeal to millions of survivors in the mountains to leave their villages and come down to the valleys and cities for shelter before the start of winter in about three weeks. (Bloomberg) --Vsion 07:27, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• In the effort to fight against the AIDS pandemic, the United Nations Children's Fund (Unicef), UNAIDS and other partners launch a global campaign, known as Unite for Children, Unite Against AIDS, to spur action for the millions of children affected by HIV/AIDS. Officials estimate that fewer than 5 percent of HIV-positive children are receiving treatment. (Unicef) -Vsion 05:04, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The Chicago White Sox win the 2005 World Series, four games to none over the Houston Astros, the White Sox's first World Series victory since 1917. ChicosBailBonds 05:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PUSH the Iraqi flag down, and add the White Sox LOGO. (preceding unsigned comment by WikiDon (talk · contribs) 05:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC))[reply]

• Marine Corps Air Station Futenma to be relocated from the south island of Okinawa to the main island, affecting thousands of U.S. Marines. Protests from residents, environmental groups, and local businessmen and politicians on both sides are likely to ensue. The move is partially due to the rape of a local Okinawa girl, a helicopter crash into a university campus in Ginowan last year, and racial tensions between locals and soldiers.

WikiDon 17:25, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bombing in Hadera should be on main page Tomassophia 16:04, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Unfortunately, this type of event is so common that it probably doesn't belong on ITN.--Pharos 16:18, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The results of the recently drafted and voted on Iraq constitution seems to be a major story in world news, and the article is well developed too. --Brendanfox 12:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Rosa Parks, whose famous refusal in 1955 to surrender her bus seat to a white man in Montgomery, Alabama triggered a bus-boycott and the beginning of the modern US civil rights movement died at the age of 92. The recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom was known to have suffered from dementia. Sources state that she died at her home in Detroit of natural causes.128.253.53.141 04:49, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please see Wikipedia:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page#Criteria for adding entries. We have a policy against obituary-type items unless the death has a major impact on current events.--Pharos 04:59, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• • • Was Ronald Reagan's death omitted from the front page on this basis? This is not some obscure old entertainer. This is a major figure in U.S. 20th Century history.--Pozole 13:01, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Lech Kaczyński wins the Polish presidential election.

  File:Lech kaczynski photo for media.jpg

  • Posted. The image is not copyright/free use, it's a fair use press kit photo, so I didn't use it.--Pharos 03:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• A Nigerian airliner Bellview Airlines flight 210, a Boeing 737 aircraft, with 116 people on board crashed shortly after taking off from Lagos en route to the capital Abuja. (theStar)(Reuters)
  • Posted. I avoided giving an exact number of people on board as different press sources give slightly different numbers.--Pharos 03:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• assassination is spelled wrong on the main page! Jonpin 07:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil will held an guns and amno ban referendum in sunday

• I'm afraid we're going to at the very least need something in English on this. Thanks.--Pharos 03:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• I think this piece of news should be added:

A United Nations investigation headed by Detlev Mehlis has found that high-ranking members of the Syrian and Lebanese governments were involved in the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. (ABC). CG 17:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For Hurricane Wilma, the unit abbreviation should be mbar, not mb. And, mbar redirects to Millibar. ---Aude 15:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest an entry about Trafalgar Day celebrations in the UK and around the world? One page from the BBC [[1]] shows about the service on HMS Victory this morning, but there will be more later.

No suggestion, but hoping to find here someone who can do someting about this: Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 21 --de:User:Interpretix 09:09, 21 October 2005 (UTC)(one of those German quality freaks)[reply]

• Two weeks after the Kashmir earthquake that killed more than 79,000 people, United Nations estimates that half a million affected people are still being cut off from relief aid. The UN appeals to the international community for more aid and warns that tens of thousands of people could die if aid do not reach them in time as the harsh winter is approaching. (Guardian) (preceding unsigned comment by Vsion (talk · contribs) 23:20, 20 October 2005. UTC)

• Which wikiarticle has the updated info ? Please bold. Please also update Current events. -- 64.229.7.96 01:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• A UN probe has found that there was Syrian and Lebanese involvement in the assassination of former the late Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. (ABC) (preceding unsigned comment by Ordinary Person (talk · contribs) 23:56, 20 October 2005. UTC)

• Which wikiarticle has the updated info ? Please bold. -- 64.229.7.96 01:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. I'm fairly new to wiki Ordinary Person 04:41, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

please see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page. --64.229.178.215 16:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Man charged with trespassing on farm in horse-sex death: A truck driver identified in court papers as taking part in an incident in which a friend died after having sex with a horse on an Enumclaw, Washington farm was charged Tuesday with having trespassed on the farm.[2] (preceding unsigned comment by 24.18.218.239 (talk · contribs) 23:24, 19 October 2005)

• Is this significant news ? -- 64.229.7.96 01:35, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The Trial of Saddam Hussein begins in Baghdad. Saddam Hussein is charged together with seven associates with the ordering of the killing of 143 Shi'a men in the town of Dujail in 1982. (preceding unsigned comment by 58.104.143.251 (talk · contribs) 14:21, 19 October 2005)

• On October 17 the Garbuna volcano in West New Britain, Papua New Guinea, erupted without warning after being dormant for 1,700 years (see Garbuna Group). (preceding unsigned comment by 58.104.143.251 (talk · contribs) )

• Helen Clark announces the formation of a Labour-led Government in New Zealand. The Progressive Party is in coalition. New Zealand First and United Future support the government and are each given ministerial positions outside Cabinet.

Shenzhou 6 has landed and the astronauts are reported "in good health"

• 21-gun salutes at noon, and beacons across the country marked the birth of an heir to the throne of Denmark. The firstborn son of Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary will be 2nd in line to the danish throne, preceeded by his father. The Crown Prince of Denmark

• The construction of Qinghai-Tibet Railway finished. The line includes the Tanggula Mountain Pass, which at 5,072 meters above sea level will become the world's highest rail track.

• Election officials in Somaliland parliamentary elections, the first multiparty election since Somaliland breakaway, announce that the ruling party the For Unity, Democracy, and Independence won the most seats. (seattlepi)

• Malawi President Bingu wa Mutharika declared a national disaster due to the worsening food shortage crisis that affects half of the country's population. (Reuters)

• Harold Pinter wins the 2005 Nobel Prize in Literature. —Cantus…☎ 11:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• EU Health Commissioner Markos Kyprianou confirms that the H5N1 strain of avian influenza caused the death of several hundred turkeys on farms in north-west Turkey. (BBC) -- Solipsist 12:26, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Shenzhou 6, 2nd China manned space mission, launched successfully at 01:00:00 UTC. [3]

• The former President of Uganda, Milton Obote, has died of kidney failure at the age of 80. Obote led the East African country from 1962–1971 and again from 1980–1985. (BBC)

• The 2005 Kashmir earthquake map on the main page needs to be changed and look more like this one:[[4]]. The map on the main page barely shows the quake area and instead shows India with Pakistan and Afghanistan cut-off! Makes no sense. (preceding unsigned comment by Tombseye (talk · contribs) 04:45, 2005 October 11 UTC)

• The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences awards Thomas Schelling and Robert Aumann the 2005 Nobel Prize in Economics, "for having enhanced our understanding of conflict and cooperation through game-theory analysis".
• Angela Merkel becomes Germany's new Chancellor for a new coalition government of conservatives and social democrats.
  • Angela Merkel becomes Germany's new Chancellor, leading a Grand Coalition between SPD and CDU/CSU. --Kitch 11:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note that Kitch is correct, and the current version on the main page is not correct. The Jamaica coalition is specifically CSU/CDU, FDP, and Greens; but what was actually announced was CSU/CDU and SDP. As the two major German parties, these two form a Grand coalition. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 21:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Korrekt, this is absolutely not a Jamaica coalition!
• Maybe and ongoing thing on this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,7369,1588595,00.html, (in terms of protests in the area. Think i remember seeing something about a village where there were riots a few months back also)

• The 100th occurance of the Red River Shootout, the college football rivalry game between the University of Oklahoma Sooners and the University of Texas Longhorns is played today in Dallas, Texas. The series is considered one of the greatest rivalries in NCAA football. Johntex\^talk 21:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sports events generally are not notable enough for ITN. The Ashes got a pass (from me at least) for "parity" with the Superbowl earlier this year, but I really think in future we should only cover the Olympics, the one sporting event which is clearly of worldwide interest.--Pharos 01:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that this doesn't deserve to be front page. While I do believe that some sports deserve mention (the Olympics, Super Bowl), pretty much any college football game isn't notable enough for ITN purposes (I might make an exception for the championship, but even then...) Ral315 W_S 13:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • This game hasnt even been played yet ! Why bother ? ... -- 65.95.152.67 21:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and its head Mohamed ElBaradei are jointly awarded the 2005 Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts to limit the spread of atomic weapons. —Cantus…☎ 09:11, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• The International Criminal Court issues its first ever arrest warrants, against the leaders of Uganda's Lord's Resistance Army. - BanyanTree 04:29, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• I added this; perhaps, though, you could pick a better image than I.--Pharos 04:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The death toll from Hurricane Stan, as it passes through Central America and southern Mexico stands at 56.--nixie 00:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Roy J. Glauber and John L. Hall of the U.S. and Theodor W. Haensch of Germany share...
• Talks begin on the Accession of Turkey to the European Union, part of the process of the Enlargement of the European Union. --G Rutter 10:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• 2005 Bali bombings - a day later, and a revised toll. It's fortunate that it seems less were killed, but still unfortunate that at least 19 were killed (22 including the three suicide bombers).--Cyberjunkie | Talk 11:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• As the conflict in northern Uganda continues to escalate, four Ugandan civilians have been killed in an ambush on a pickup truck in north east Uganda by Lord's Resistance Army rebels. The insurgents are suspected of shooting the driver and two passengers and killing a fourth with an axe. --Vsion 19:37, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• The Malawi government says that 650,000 people in the country have died due to the AIDS pandemic in the past two decades. There are now 850,000 orphan children, 50% of these are a result of AIDS. (allAfrica) --Vsion 08:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• The United Nations Security Council demands that Rwandan rebels, the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR), to disarm and leave Democratic Republic of the Congo immediately. (Reuters) --Vsion 08:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• 2005 Bali bombings - Needs to be updated. Almost all reports claim "at least 26 dead" now. Some say more. But 22 is outdated.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• 2005 Bali bombings - Could the image of the gorilla (as fascinating as it is) be replaced by either Image:2005 Bali bombings SCTV screenshot.jpg or Image:Bali blast 2005.jpg, or even Image:Indonesia flag large.png? There's a pretty decent article on the incident going now, and it should feature as our leading event, picture and all.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes? No? Good idea? Bad idea?--Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more image options: Image:2005 Bali Terror-scene1.JPG; Image:2005 Bali Terror-victims1.JPG; Image:2005 Bali Terror-jimbaran1.JPG; and, Image:2005 Bali Terror-scene2.JPG. See 2005 Bali bombings for captions. The image needs to be changed.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 15:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted the Flag. Besides the map, do we have any PD, non-fairuse pics to choose from ? -- PFHLai 16:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not as of yet.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 16:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• New Zealand general election: Helen Clark of the Labour Party returns for a third term as Prime Minister of New Zealand. -- 199.71.174.100 03:10, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Pharos, for adding. -- 199.71.174.100 07:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• For the first time, researchers observe wild gorillas using tools.
• Two female gorillas in the Congo have been observed using tools in the wild, meaning that all the great apes are now known to use tools.
  • This was added, but the word "(pictured)" should be removed. Judge John Roberts cannot possibly be a female gorilla who uses as a stabilizing stick while dredging aquatic herbs, as the ALT text indicates. Please fix. -- 199.71.174.100 07:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, thanks, I just noticed this now.--Pharos 07:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • That was quite amusing. Let's revert the fixing. :-) -- 199.71.174.100 07:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • Maybe we should establish consensus first... is there any objection? :) BTW, it's really a great thing that the study was published in an open-access journal under the Creative Commons Attribution License. It's just fantastic to have the free images from the paper.--Pharos 07:48, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
          • That is good. I didn't notice the open-access bit when I was adding the story - just that it was possible to read the original article. I guess that's a side effect of banner advertising on the web, which leads you to tune out anything in a box at the top of the page. -- Solipsist 08:20, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've made a slight rewording to the main page string, since the news item is that this is the first time tool use has been observed in the wild. Wild gorillas have presumably been using tools for many years, and gorillas have previously been taught to use tools in captivity. I've also temporarily removed the reference to Congo, as we've got some organisational problems there. Ideally we probably want to say 'The Congo' which I believe (but am not sure) is an area of jungle that spans both the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (where the gorillas actually wereweren't) and possibly a wider area still. We don't really want to tie the one line summary down to an individual country, since the location isn't particularly relevant and it could end up implying that this is the first time tool use was observed in that particular country. -- Solipsist 08:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, the study was done in the Republic of Congo (this is in the paper). I don't really think "the Congo" has much meaning in a modern context, except as the river. I would think, though, that a geographic context is important for any story we have here, and tying it to a country on a map can't hurt. I tend to think "for the first time" was implicit (why else would it be news?), but I guess that's alright.--Pharos 09:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • You're right, it looks like I've got the Congos back to front. I've no objection to mentioning the country, if it can be phrased in such a way that it doesn't detract from the 'first time' element - which I think does need to be emphasised, as these days, people tend to assume that tool use is normal amoungst all apes (as the page history illustrates). -- Solipsist 14:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Gregory Olsen becomes the third space tourist, after taking off from Kazakhstan as part of the crew of a Soyuz TMA-7 rocket headed for the ISS.

• Algeria votes to support the Charter for Peace and National Reconciliation, in the first step to the cessation of the Algerian Civil War
  • It's much more like the last step than the first, but OK. Is there an article about the referendum? Maybe someone can make this link blue. Thanks.--Pharos 09:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]