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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 7, 2014.

Bare-eyed

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Naked eye by unanimous consensus. --BDD (talk) 16:47, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Similar to Spot-winged (RfD), this is too vague a search term. Readers are better off seeing search results than our trying to guess what they're looking for. There are several birds called bare-eyed something, and the spectacled thrush (also known as the bare-eyed thrush, not to be confused with the Bare-eyed thrush) doesn't seem to be primary among them. BDD (talk) 23:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per BDD. BDD did not explicitly say delete, but my conclu from that sound reasoning is to delete. Si Trew (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget per Neelix. I just chucked in "See the moon with a bare eye" into My Favourite Search Engine and all the results are for seeing the moon (or moons of Jupiter, and so on) with a naked eye. So it seems a sensible retarget. 01:33, 9 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs)
Works for me. --BDD (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Presidential Climate Action Project

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retargeted. --BDD (talk) 22:40, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re-targeting, to Barack Obama’s 2013 climate action plan, and subsequently renaming Barack Obama’s 2013 climate action plan to i.e. Presidential Climate Action Plan. (see talk page of Barack Obama’s 2013 climate action plan) prokaryotes (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, retargeted and there is a discussion for the RM, thanks for your input BDD. prokaryotes (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Nac1

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Sodium chloride. This was a complex RFD to close but what is clear is that there is no support for the present target nor is there a consensus for deletion. Opinion is divided three ways between those who wish to retarget to 'Sodium chloride', those who wish to retarget to 'NAC Freelance' and those who wish to have a disamb page. However, without a draft to utilise, conversion to a disambig page is outwith this RFD. Consequently I am closing with a retarget to what, narrowly, is the majority preference. It is now open to any editor, if they deem appropriate, to boldly replace the redirect with a disamb page, that can be done subsequent to, and outside, this RFD. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 01:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious typo (Cl=>C1). Delete or retarget to sodium chloride. GZWDer (talk) 11:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 13:11, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
However Sodium chloride has its own article and should probably be retargeted there rather than to salt, although it is mentioned in the lede there so I doubt people will get confused either way. Si Trew (talk)
Would it match NaCI? (That is an uppercase eye at the last character). Si Trew (talk) 04:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable Sources use "NAC1" to refer to the Freelance, so it is a variant spelling, not a mispelling. [1][2][3] assuming that you allow for all lowercase nac1 to mean NAC1 -- 65.94.77.36 (talk) 05:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: This is a cosmetic relist. This discussion is just awaiting closure, but kicking it down the road superficially shrinks the backlog.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (49 BC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. I may be WP:INVOLVED, but this isn't the outcome I wanted, and the lack of consensus is clear. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While this was the article title almost ten years ago, it's misleading because the significance of 49 BC to Lepidus is unclear. It's not a year of birth or death—not even close. Looking over the dab Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, many are disambiguated by the year in which they held an important position, but again, no special significance of 49 BC is indicated. A user searching for this term would expect someone born that year, or perhaps holding a consulship that year. BDD (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is true, BDD is right this time. 49 BC has no significance with this topic Ned1230|Whine|Stalk

Delete. Unlikely search term. Si Trew (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did more than a cursory examination. But surely the (49 BC) at the back is hardly a likely search term. Even the (triumvir) is a bit dodgy but that's another matter but surely the (49 BC) is out of whack. Otherwise we have Elizabeth Barrett-Brown (1752 AD)] or whatever, and we don't. (She probably wasn't born that early I just made it up for the example, I imagine about 1810). Si Trew (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so the year does have some significance, but I still don't see it as a likely search term. It's still likely to be read "person named Marcus Aemilius Lepidus born in 49 BC." What's next, Bill Clinton (1993–2001)? Ah yes, the boy president, RIP. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
For historical people, whose birth and death dates are often unknown, this kind of formatting is common. For people from the last ~200 years, when birth and death dates are usually known, it's far more uncommon. But this is clearly a case of the former. WilyD 09:51, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 13:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But why bother? Bill Clinton is already the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Why do you want to add the dates on a redirect? The search engine will find it if someone had the temerity to put in "Bill Clinton (1993–2001)". I just tried it and my first link was to Bill Clinton, section 5, "Presidency, 1993–2001". Oddly enough if you search with a straight hyphen instead of a an en dash your first result is Al_Gore#Vice_Presidency_and_second_presidential_run but Bill is still in third place and easy to find. Si Trew (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know exactly how this works, but doesn't the search box suppress redirects to a certain extent? I can't think of a specific example offhand, but sometimes I'll type, for example, four letters and there will be two suggestions popped down. I write another couple of letters, and there's one suggestion that wasn't present before. I believe proper titles are favored; it may also have to do with popularity. --BDD (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@BDD:, I'm not familiar with the new search engine wrt selection from large lists of partial matching results, so I cant comment on general principles it uses. However if you put 'Marcus Aemilius Lepidus' into the search box, you see everything in special:prefixindex/Marcus Aemilius Lepidus (including this redirect). John Vandenberg (chat) 04:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: This is a cosmetic relist. This discussion is just awaiting closure, but kicking it down the road superficially shrinks the backlog.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:43, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@RomanSpa: Sorry, I never did Latin at school: that's O The Times, the Daily Mirror right?.I just did woodwork – but I just learned a bit on the side but I always get all the cases and declensions wrong. And of course I agree with you: cos I just learned it from a textbook about Latin language I didn't have to romp through all this Roman history so I wouldn't know his date at all: and if I did (can anyone actually remember all these? I suppose they were drummed or caned into them) then they wouldn't likely need the article.
In fact I probably learned it from that old teddy-bear Betjeman:

Floruit, floret, floreat
Cheldonia's children cry.
I composed those lines when a summer wind
Was blowing the elm leaves dry
And we were seventy-six for seven
And they had C. B. Fry.

— John Betjeman, Collected Poems[Betj 1]
Si Trew (talk) 09:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Betjeman, John (1989 (first published 1958)). "At Cheltenham". Collected Poems. John Murray. p. 41. ISBN 0-7195-3632-4. ((cite book)): Check date values in: |date= (help)
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LED IPS

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The door is ajar

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect is not closely enough related to its target for it to make sense. I would think that this term would redirect to an automobile-related article, such as Automobile safety. Where it stands now, the redirect is confusing and possibly misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 13:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not mentioned at target. The old Christmas cracker joke, "when is a door not a door? When it's a jar", as a homonym, but it is not mentioned there at all (neither is homonym or synonym for that matter). Si Trew (talk) 03:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Flam

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The result of the discussion was moved without a redirect to Flam (drum rudiment), Flam (disambiguation) moved to Flam. --BDD (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Searching Flam directs here and not to Flam (disambiguation). i.e. should Flam continue to point to Drum rudiments#Flam rudiments, or instead should point to Flam (disambiguation) (or less probably to the heavily-visited Norwegian town of Flåm, which might arguably be the dominant topic based on Google hits) --palmiped |  Talk  11:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Flåm, which already has the hatnote to the DAB. It's difficult for people on non-scandinavian keyboards to type the diacritical mark on the A, so I can well imagine they try it without it. (Angstrom has a character in ASCII and Unicode, and is now synonymous with LATIN UPPER CASE LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE, there is a separate space in the Unicode Basic Universal Plane for ANGSTROM SIGN but they are now synonymous and usually the glyphs are rendered identically), but LATIN LOWER CASE LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE is not easily available on most non-Scandinavian keyboards). On the other hand they might be looking for flan and just miss, who knows. You're right, it gets around 40 hits a day (the redirect), according to groks.se; Flåm gets 60–80, which suggests about a half to two-thirds of people go via the redirect, the others directly. Whether that is where they want to go I don't know, I think drumming is probably more popular than a small tourist destination in Norway, although it looks very nice and I would happily live there. Si Trew (talk) 03:49, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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