This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 13, 2015.
Train-and-Equip Program
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Train-and-equip program. --BDD (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Propose deletion. Unfortunately there is not yet an article about the generic concept of a Train-and-Equip Program. There however have been many Train-and-Equip Programs in military history, some covered by an article, some not. It is misleading to redirect from the generic term to one of these specific examples. PanchoS (talk) 23:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Convert to a WP:DABCONCEPT until such article is written. The only Train-and-Equip Programs that I can find with articles is Georgia Train and Equip Program and Syrian Train and Equip Program. There also exists James W. Pardew#Bosnia Train and Equip Program, so we have three potential entries in such a dab. -- Tavix (talk) 01:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Convert to DAB per Tavix. I think this is very much a US thing isn't it, I don't think the British military use "train and equip" as a term, at least not that I have heard. If they do they don't follow it, because we usually send our soldiers in untrained and unequipped. (Disclaimer: I worked on military training simulations for many years.) (Si Trew (talk) 08:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Disambiguate as Tavix suggests. Without those finds I would be tempted to delete to encourage creation, but this outcome serves readers better unless/until an article is written. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 13:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Convert to DAB per Tavix. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:22, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- May I suggest the dab be at Train-and-equip program, which might actually be a good candidate for a WP:CONCEPTDAB. If we treat it as a proper name, it would be Train-and-equip Program (cf. MOS:HYPHENCAPS), but I don't think the general idea counts as a proper name, the way the names of specific programs do. --BDD (talk) 13:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I've created Train-and-equip program as a stub which will function as a conceptdab. I suggest retargeting there as ((R from other capitalisation)). --BDD (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- With that work done, retarget per BDD. —烏Γ (kaw), 19:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks like we mostly have consensus. PanchoS, does the page look good to you? --BDD (talk) 15:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Awesome, BDD, thanks for creating! Not sure about which way the redirect should go, but don't care all too much. Ready to mark this one fixed. PanchoS (talk) 15:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks! I'll go ahead and close. --BDD (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. What we found in the discussion is that Ugaritisch = Ugaritic != Ugric. Since Ugaritisch is the German/Dutch name for this extinct language, this redirect should be deleted per WP:FORRED. Deryck C. 18:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
WP:FORRED. This ancient language has no connection with Germany or German-speaking cultures, none of which would exist until millennia later. BDD (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Finno-Ugric, essentially Finnish, Hungarian, Latvian and Estonian. This is a bit weird cos it is the German name for Finno-Ugric, but we can't help that. Modern languages from Finno-Ugric exist, so I don't think a delete is appropriate. Si Trew (talk) 05:36, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Whoa there. Kusma did no such thing. Ironically, though, you did change Kusma's. (I've fixed it.) Careful. --BDD (talk) 16:56, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Completely my fault then: I thought Kusma had, but entirely my mistake, sorry about that, and I have apologised on Kusma's talk page. Not technically an edit conflict but essentially so, and absolutely completely my cock-up. Thanks for fixing it. Si Trew (talk) 19:28, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- As for the double !vote, I have tried to clarify whether a !vote before or after the bar counts as "double", since I don't like to go back and change history when the bar drops (i.e. when we relist for more thorough discussion) – so please take both as one. The fact is we are not talking about the german word but the English word. Si Trew (talk) 08:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- The English word? What English word? "Ugaritisch" means "Ugaritic" in German and Dutch; it doesn't mean anything in English, which is why the consensus here is to delete it. Sideways713 (talk) 10:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- @SimonTrew:When you change your mind, you need to strike your previous !vote (not the whole comment, just the bold part). It's a lot easier for the closer when you do that, especially in bigger discussions when there's a lot to keep track of and it shows that you no longer hold that opinion. -- Tavix (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Mohammed and Mohammedism
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 18:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Quintessential WP:XY. Is a reader looking for Muhammad? Mohammedan? Islam? A work by this name? I really don't think there's any way to know. And "Mohammedism" is at least slightly derogatory. --BDD (talk) 19:32, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Good question. Muhammad or Mohammed is transliterated in so many diffenet ways that we can't have alll of them, which should we pick? Mahammad goes to Islam but Mahammadaism does not. Si Trew (talk) 19:47, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- But "Mahammadaism" isn't a word, so it's unclear what parallel you're trying to draw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMcCandlish (talk • contribs) 07:19, 6 October 2015
- Hmmm, but that would imply that we should have Mohammad in Islam. The difficulty is in the transliteration, I think, not the creation of the article (I am not Muslim I am just vaguely C of E but can kinda do that because of that, standing aside, if you want). Si Trew (talk) 04:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- To clear the waters a bit, when I said "Mahammadaism" above is not an R, that was a typo with the last "a", I meant Mahammadism, which also is red. So the point stands but I typo'd and was not arguing for the one with my extraneous "a". Si Trew (talk) 08:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix (talk) 00:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. -- Tavix (talk) 00:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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