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List of people named Henry Lord and all other SSTflyer redirects

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. The entire list is included in this discussion. I'll add a note to make that clearer. -- Tavix (talk) 22:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see LOPN Henry Lopes has already been deleted following a discussion here today and I also nominated for speedy deletion LOPN Henry Lott with this rationale. Still, my call for all of them to be speedily deleted was ignored, thus I start this discussion here. I hope that you understand that it is impossible to tag 17,500 different pages.--The Traditionalist (talk) 22:07, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cucurbita polymorpha

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The result of the discussion was keep. While there is no apparent consensus in this discussion, as closing admin I should assess the opinions with established policy. Although the redirect title is an obscure synonym with an unusual etymology, none of the "delete" opinions have been able to demonstrate how the redirect is either incorrect, confusing, or otherwise harmful to the reader. Procedural point: "Neelix redirect" refers to this ANI case, although the injunction becomes void in relation to any particular redirect as soon as any editor argues for keeping it. Deryck C. 23:53, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect) whiy would this be polymorphic? I can't see it at the target Si Trew (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SimonTrew:, don't look too hard for meaning in scientific names. Ultimately, they are arbitrary, and it isn't always readily apparent what feature the person who named them had in mind when naming them. I expect that polymorpha probably refers to variation in the shape of fruits produced by different varieties of this cultivated plant, but it could refer to different leaf shapes, flower, or something else entirely. Scientific names can be blatant misnomers, but that doesn't invalidate them. Simmondsia chinensis and Scilla peruviana don't grow on the continents implied by their names, but the names are accepted. Plantdrew (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
PS neelix redirect??
We might not create such redirects; but if someone else has taken the trouble to link an obsolete synonym from an old book to its modern day counterpart then, if we were really here to facilitate free access to the sum of all human knowledge, we might just be best to leave well alone. I really think that some on here should get more fresh air...perhaps participate in some good old fashioned book burning instead. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Paceman

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The result of the discussion was move disambiguation page over redirect. Deryck C. 23:54, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Should this not go to pacemaker like Christopher Chataway someone who deliberately sets the pace in a race? however I can't find an article about that, perhaps this is blocking search., Si Trew (talk) 17:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that I went ahead and created "Paceman (disambiguation)". CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Making sure that it's clear I'm now changing the vote to: Retarget to Paceman (disambiguation). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:00, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bosley John Bosley - I couldn't give a flying fuck if he has 10 FAs, Point is he created shit like "Constructions of the booby", Titty constructor, Boobie builder, Boobie milk " .... so you should be able to understand why I and others mention his name (and if you see here and here I'm more than happy to Keep his only if they're sensible which in this case they're not), But hey thanks for singling me out here - wholly appreciated!. –Davey2010Talk 14:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tens of thousands of bad redirects like wankstain ... Go defend someone that has not wasted countless hours of everyone's time. Legacypac (talk) 17:10, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't blame Nelix...You have wasted your own time...you really have...but if you want to waste more go clean the wankstain at Wiktionary...but don't blame the creator of that article..take ownership of your actions. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 17:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Don't blame Nelix" - Well no one else has created thousands upon thousands of redirects have they .... Stop trolling and go do something productive. –Davey2010Talk 18:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One day You guys will realise that Neelix's redirects were harmless - maybe useless - maybe shit - but harmless useless shit...If they were harming the project someone would have picked up on it before he had spent five years racking up 80,000 edits...Go back...look at those who were howling for his head at the ANI bearpit...Where are they now?...are they still doing this donkey work? Bosley John Bosley (talk) 19:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The community found them so harmless they forced him to resign adminship and banned him for a year from making any redirects, oh and defacto he's site banned because anything he does is going to be watched like a hawk and he'll be expected to clean up his mess. Legacypac (talk) 09:53, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Spintop

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The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 17:19, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect)) Not sure about this one Si Trew (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Top-spins

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ther target is fine but I think this might be pushing it a bit far (Neelix redirect) Si Trew (talk) 17:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Noseless

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 16:13, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Neelix redirects which appear to be pointing to a no-longer existent section of this article. The etymology section contains no indication that any of these terms have anything to do with Dasa.Onel5969 TT me 16:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I considered that, but think it would imply that rhinotomy is the only/predominant way to be noseless, which would be misleading. -- Tavix (talk) 14:47, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Origin of the human species

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The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 17:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would have thought this should go to Darwin's On the Origin of Species. neelix redirect. Si Trew (talk) 15:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:XY. Seems like it could be anthropogeny, hominization (these two could perhaps be merged) or human evolution. Plantdrew (talk) 16:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The proper target seems to be anthropogeny. Both hominization and human evolution are specific aspects of it and they're both mentioned in that article's lead. Darwin's book is implausible as it doesn't deal specifically with human species. Uanfala (talk) 19:35, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't that be a subtopic? Uanfala (talk) 11:39, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Muhammad/images

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The result of the discussion was delete. On balance, the likely disappointment of such redirects and the fact that mainspace subpages have been disused a long time ago outweigh the potential benefit to the reader from having the companion talk: pages as bluelinks. Deryck C. 17:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Housekeeping. The Traditionalist (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually quite unlikely a user would expect such a feature if they were at all familiar with talk pages. Such redirects are quite rare, so any editors with such an expectation are doubtless being disappointed on a very regular basis. --BDD (talk) 19:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite unlikely because it is quite rare that users engage on a sub-page of a talk page. In fact, Talk:Muhammad/images is the only one I've encountered in my 10 years on Wikipedia. I created that redirect because I expected such a feature, and felt it was reasonable to assume that others might also, in this rare circumstance. The conversations on /images typically start on the main talk page and are then moved to /images, which has been disorienting to new users in the past, so any little bit helps. Redirects are cheap, after all. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see. But there are many such subpages: the talk page archives, which always have those same red links for "Article". The more relevant navigational aid for pages like these are the links back to the talk page (e.g., "< Talk:Muhammad"). --BDD (talk) 13:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No BDD that isn't the same things. Talk page archives are archives, not "live" pages where active discussion takes place. It is common (at least for me) while composing a reply on a talk page, to click on the article tab to open a new window to refer to something in the article. That need does not exist on archive pages. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:31, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Simple, Fish and karate. A user types "Muhammad" into the search box—likely something that happens at least dozens of times a day. They see these titles, and click on them. What are they expecting to find? A page of images of Muhammad, or a page of FAQs about him. I don't know exactly how a reader in that situation would feel, but I expect confusion would be there. --BDD (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Rich, that's probably just because they're at RfD. They're mainspace—there's otherwise no reason they shouldn't. --BDD (talk) 12:01, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so. The current search engine seems to be fairly "/" adverse (also I suspect it may take page views into account). Once you type "Muhammad/" both pages show. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:27, 13 May 2016 (UTC).[reply]
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User:Wikidumbo

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect. The user may blank, add ((humor)), request deletion, or do whatever else to the page, but there's consensus against this misleading redirect. --BDD (talk) 15:46, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that doing this is legitimate... The Traditionalist (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

God's Not Dead, Legacypac (talk) 05:41, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Religion, Religious

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:55, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is going to search for this or link to this. The Traditionalist (talk) 13:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Science

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The result of the discussion was no consensus and delete, respectively. --BDD (talk) 15:41, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Housekeeping. The Traditionalist (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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VIRGIL

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Demosthenes as fictional character

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 22#Demosthenes as fictional character

MrAristotle

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 14:34, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that it is nonsense if the creation rationale did not look legitimate. Still, I cannot get much out of it, so I hope that the creator will come here and comment. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This explanation should be added to the redirect's talk page. Legacypac (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac:If closed properly, a link to this discussion will be posted at its talk page. That should cover it. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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It is the mark of

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am not able to find a meaning in this redirect. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is the mark of none other than Aristotle himself to have used this phrase. Uanfala (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Dropidas

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The result of the discussion was restore article without prejudice against sending to AfD. Deryck C. 18:00, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure great-grandfather of the first cousin of the mother of Plato redirects to Plato... The Traditionalist (talk) 12:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that sounds like quite a gem. The redirect used to have content when it was created, so it seems best to restore to this earlier version and then, as the topic is of presumably low notability, prod or nominate for deletion. An alternative is to redirect to Lanike, the subject's daughter. Uanfala (talk) 22:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Complete works of Plato

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 23#Complete works of Plato

Socrates Johnson

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just nonsense, most likely. Seeing that the creator is still active, ten years after the page's creation, I hope that they remember creating this one and will be able to explain its intended purpose. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Þú Og Þeir (Sókrates)

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The result of the discussion was Resolved. The redirect code has been replaced with ((Talk page of redirect)). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 14:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yet again, a redirect to a talk page with material from a different talk page in it. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Traditionalism (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 23:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A disambiguation page which redirects to the main topic is hardly useful. Perhaps a deletion would encourage the creation of an actual DAB page. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops! I am sorry! I was so confident that Traditionalism was an article and not a disambiguation page that I did not even take a look at it... Withdraw--The Traditionalist (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:List of religious leaders in 2006

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The result of the discussion was Resolved. The redirect code has been replaced with ((Talk page of redirect)). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 14:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again, redirect to a talk page which contains a different talk page. The Traditionalist (talk) 12:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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LCB Leasing

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No obvious relation. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to news reports such as this, LCB Leasing was a company created by the FBI to register aircraft used in domestic surveillance. Jonathunder (talk) 13:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is it notable enough for a redirect to FBI's article, in which it is not mentioned?--The Traditionalist (talk) 13:07, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The widespread news coverage makes it at least plausible someone will search for it. Jonathunder (talk) 00:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Elliot Shimon

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The result of the discussion was keep. (The target section is now just Conspiracy theories.) --BDD (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typo. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think I can explain (for suffciently liberal values of "explain") this one...
Some (dubious seeming) sources have suggested that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, is really a Mossad agent called Elliot Shimon or Simon Elliot. I suspect the redirect is intended to go to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant#Conspiracy theories, which mentions this. Suggest redirecting to there. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 11:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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User:Mhhossein/Un-Islamic Non-state

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, WP:G6, by RHaworth (talk · contribs). (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 23:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect which was, most likely, created accidentally. Unless the creator wants it kept, delete it. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Russian intervention in the Syrian Civil War

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The result of the discussion was Resolved. The redirect code has been replaced with ((Talk page of redirect)). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 14:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect to a talk page contains a different talk page. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Boko Haram insurgency/Archive 1

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The result of the discussion was Redirect suppressed. This page is clearly a valid archive page for its parent talk page, so after removing the redirect, it's a standard talk page archive page. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 14:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect contains its merger proposal. Should it be there? The Traditionalist (talk) 11:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Baroness The Margaret Thatcher

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Utterly implausible. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A Summary of the Life of Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This survived a previous RfD on the basis that the history should be preserved. The article was so unencyclopaedic, however, that there is no reason for it to be preserved. Also, the redirect, on its own, is completely useless. The Traditionalist (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Grade school essay titles Legacypac (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Tavix: Saved for ever here.--The Traditionalist (talk) 19:34, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh good, now I can be reminded that "Without Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Europe might be called Germany." -- Tavix (talk) 19:45, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
But did Hitler "serve" Germany or was it more like "destroy" Germany and much of Europe? Legacypac (talk) 20:03, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Legacypac: I suppose that it depends on the point of view. If killing for an ideal can be justified and one firmly believes in this ideal, then, yes Hitler actually did serve Germany (and much of Europe). If you are more moderate (especially to the level of radical mediocrity which we tend to call “left-wing politics”), then he obviously destroyed them. I prefer not to stand by either of this positions and declare that it was all populism from the beginning. Populism neither serves nor destroys, it just irritates. And even when it kills, it can be nothing more than high-level irritation. Because nobody would want to do populism the favour of raising it to the status of a “destroyer”, am I wrong?--The Traditionalist (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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John Adams/Inaugural Speech

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per Martin Van Buren/Inaugural Address The Traditionalist (talk) 11:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Uniformisability

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

úThis is just about plausible (Neelix redirect). It is spelt with British English -ise not -ize, "Fowler and the OED notwithstanding" as Orwell has it yet it is just about plausible enough that I hezitate to take to CSD. Si Trew (talk) 10:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blue House (Mexico)

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 19:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect) apparently there is another notable Blue House nowhere near Mexico but this is just then queering the pitch, I think, WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The other Blue House is South Korea's White House. This one makes sense. Legacypac (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Ch'ŏng'wadae

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 19:48, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect) Korean who is ever on English wikipedia going to search in this way? Si Trew (talk) 09:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I note that there are in fact 25 separate redirects from various spellings of Chongwadae to Blue House, as well as redirects from the Hangul and Hanja. Most of these were not created by neelix, and they all seem legit to me. They might not be commonly used, but I can certainly see a use-case for them. If consensus is to delete, we should probably nuke the whole lot of them. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Caeciliusinhorto. Uanfala (talk) 19:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's the McCune–Reischauer transliteration. Random86 (talk) 08:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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North Pavilions

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:48, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure, both are Neelix creations and I think WP:XY as these are not the only North and South pavilions in the world. Si Trew (talk) 09:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 09:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandros Jakupović

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 19:46, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would like the redirect to be deleted. It has been established that this name never features diacritics. Thus it is an ineffectual and practically useless redirect. Rovingrobert (talk) 08:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deryck Chan (talk · contribs) @St170e: no Јакуповиц doesn't exist as a real surname, that's a fascinating example of the http://www.sd-crvenazvezda.net/ having back-translated a Graecicized Serbian name into Greek and then phonetically back into Serbian, which is completely legitimate and quality journalism on their part, however you've also got Serbian websites just treating the Greek player's name as per his father's normal Serbian spelling http://www.mojacrvenazvezda.net/97583/2014/11/04/tenis-dve-titule-za-bjelicu-u-heraklionu/ which means people may still search for it. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:12, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@In ictu oculi: Hmm, that's interesting. Now, this may be a minor technicality but I thought the name was Bosnian. Rovingrobert (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Casket (funerary box)

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well lI'll be in my box before I get through these Neelix redirects but the (funerary box) at the back is a bit odd. I am well aware of the distinction betweenm British and US English but this does not need the DAB. Si Trew (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added wiktionary to the casket page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 08:56, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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HKTBA

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 15:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure with this one. (Neelix redirect) was it ever known just by its initalism. User:Lenticel may know. Si Trew (talk) 08:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of people named Henry Lopes

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by multiple admins, with RHaworth (talk · contribs) handling the mass deletion. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 23:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given all the DABs on people's names we have, creating List of people named John Smith for John Smith could really get out of hand. Is there a good reason for this redirect? Legacypac (talk) 07:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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discussion after the close

I'm not sure these are in process speedies. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:12, 11 May 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Yeah this seems like it was very out of process. R3 was a particularly poor choice of criterion. As for the search engine argument, I went and tested it, and in fact Henry Lopes doesn't appear in the search results at all. So good job, now people searching for a list of people named Henry Lopes can't find it. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:52, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No one is going to do that. I mean, I know we keep harmless redirects, but your comment there seems to assume all readers must have brain damage. Nohomersryan (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Blank space

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Medial section

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Golden-spectacled

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:09, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Calling User:Plantdrew and User:Peter coxhead. Is this just a made up term or is it valid? I can see that golden eyed birdies would be valid but not sure about golden specacled (mine just come from Vision Express). I think there is a golden spectacled Owl or something but I am no expert on taxonomy. Si Trew (talk) 02:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I zap those at will too, while referring back to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red-knobbed. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Mean of Phidias

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) —Godsy(TALKCONT) 08:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm there are stacks of mathematical redirects, the maths experts probably would know more than I do but I don't think Phidias came up with the mean ratio or golden ration. Probably best to ask at WP:MATH. Si Trew (talk) 02:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as the term does appear to be used, if infrequently: [1]. Uanfala (talk) 03:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Old Gold (cigarette)

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 19:45, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(neelix redirect) not sure about this one. Since I smoke roll-your-own and get through about a keyboard every three months by putting rollup into it, I can see this makes sense and was indeed a brand of cigarettes in the UK. But it is the brackets cigarette unbrackets at the back that bugs me. Si Trew (talk) 01:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah hang on Old Gold is a colour... I see where this is going. greenisholives. Si Trew (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No actually it don't I was expecting it to be Greenisholives but admnin User:Anthony Appleyard just made it ((R from other capitalization)) many years ago. There is something fishy with this one but can't work it out yet. Neelix redirect. Si Trew (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm not sure. It is not a British brand of tobacco not made by British American Tobacco (BAT) or Gallagher or anything like that. Now, what was Terrys Chocolate essentially Rowntrees of York (now of course part of Mondelez) used to advertise on British television a box of chocs saying "see your woman's face light up with Terry's All Gold." so I am really not sure on this one. Si Trew (talk) 03:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm is it because it was created by Neelix confusing it with Golden Virginia? Si Trew (talk) 03:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with you but the back end of it the (cigarette) is what is bugging me @SmokeyJoe:. That is a nice pic on that advert that is kinda very reminiscent of who was the bloke forget the name who drew loads of nice advert pics in an Art Deco style lovely pic that one. I am just wondering whether this makes sense to well it don't make sence to me being British English but if it makes sense to Americans then we should keep it. It certainly confused me. Si Trew (talk) 03:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, the search function (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=old+gold+cigarette&go=Go) works better than manual redirects. It didn't used to be that way. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that which is why I tend to like to delete a lot of redirects so the search engine can do its job properly. I am in no way a WP:DELETIONIST but the more redirect clutter we get out of the way the better the search will work. Si Trew (talk) 07:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Descent to the underworld

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The result of the discussion was keep. I'll note, however, that the target article is similar to Preceptor, which I labeled a "faux dab". It lists disparate meanings of the same word, and descent to the underworld is one of several topics that should be spun off from there to their own articles. "Descent to the underworld" may well be the title for this one, perhaps with the history contained therein. In the meantime, however, the redirect is legitimate. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect contains a different version of the article. Should we remove it, just leave it there or take different action? The Traditionalist (talk) 01:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would that not be Kerberos the doggy fella who took people across the river from the living to the dead? Perhaps WP:RFD#D2 confusing? Si Trew (talk) 01:46, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It does no good to do back formations like that. One of Neelix'. You have what is a mix of Greek and English and it does no good to keep it, it does not help people search. WP:RFD#D1 hinders search. Si Trew (talk) 03:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(1) Delete all the text other than the REDIRECT at "Descent to the underworld"
(2) Keep since one version of a katabasis is a descent into the underworld. But, since "Descent into Hell" redirects to Harrowing of Hell, and bearing in mind "Hell" is the Christian underworld according to the "Underworld" article, "Katabasis" needs a See Also to Harrowing of Hell, and Harrowing of Hell needs a See Also to Ketabasis.
(3) Whatever you do to "Descent to the u..." must also be done to "Descent to the U...", "Descent into the u..." and "Descent into the u..." Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Itanimulli

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Supposedly, this name (Illuminati spelled backwards) is some kind of code for the National Security Administration. A non-notable hoax, is what it is. Delete. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Xo-Ho

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 00:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like nonsense, but I might be wrong. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No you're right. It's a bit so-so but this is a no-no, (Chinese transliteration) WP:RFOREIGN Speedily delete. Si Trew (talk) 01:51, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Under this name he wrote, in 1757, A Letter from Xo Ho, a Chinese Philosopher at London, to his Friend Lien Chi at Peking, the first of his works to be widely reviewed. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Withdraw. @Rich Farmbrough: Could you add a mention in the article?--The Traditionalist (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. We should probably have a separate bibliography, but I'll add some prose. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC).[reply]
I'lll quite happiliy withdraw this (as nominator) if there is text in the article. Si Trew (talk) 15:15, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@SimonTrew: Very kind of you, but I am the nominator...--The Traditionalist (talk) 22:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of Salvation Army corps in the United Kingdom in 1900

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The result of the discussion was restore as article. --BDD (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading: the list is not included in the article. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:29, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I didn't know that, more like a chapel or Friends Meeting House if you are a Quaker (Society of Friends). I never knew that, I learned something today . Si Trew (talk) 09:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I learned this too cause just before I posted, and then went and improved our article on it. Near me the Salavation Army has a 'church' but even that would be called a corps internally. Legacypac (talk) 18:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac: although I am something of an apathist I have a great deal of respect for the Sally Ann and Paul O'Grady's series of programmes on the Beeb that were so touching, moving and funny made me feel even more respect both for he and the Sally Ann. I am not a believer in any way but those programmes were very touching, and I think the best the Beeb can do when it puts its mind to it. Si Trew (talk) 03:26, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Scientology/Links

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The result of the discussion was move without redirect to Talk:Scientology/Links, and restore to pre-redirect status. --BDD (talk) 15:04, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Housekeeping. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Illuminati Bankers

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Either retarget or delete. I would go with delete. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:22, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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2b1ask1

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Regular Grand Lodge of England

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Cebu lodge no. 128

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:07, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the article and non-notable. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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LOL you're a noob

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted WP:G3, by 78.26 (talk · contribs). (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 02:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*sigh* The Traditionalist (talk) 01:09, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Knight of the Secret Circle

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the article. Still, I am certain that I have heard about it. Perhaps a reference desk question would be good. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:07, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I am almost definitely wrong on this but just throwing it out for others to consider that in Monty Python and the Holy Grail there was the Black Night. I am not suggesting by any means that that is the right target. It is certainly not the right target for freemasonry or the illuminati, there do seem to be a lot of Freemasonry redirects that Traditionalist has been kindly listing. Let me make myself clear I am not a Freemason I am an apathist but on English Wikipedia these make no sense. In Holy grail there is a song written I think by Neil Innes that goes "we're knights of the Round Table, we dance when'ere we able, we do routines and chorus scenes with footwork Impeccable". Might have been Eric Idle. But I think it it would be absurd to retarget that way so probably delete it. Si Trew (talk) 03:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I am almost definitely wrong on this but just throwing it out for others to consider that in Monty Python and the Holy Grail there was the Black Night. I am not suggesting by any means that that is the right target. It is certainly not the right target for freemasonry or the illuminati, there do seem to be a lot of Freemasonry redirects that Traditionalist has been kindly listing. Let me make myself clear I am not a Freemason I am an apathist but on English Wikipedia these make no sense. In Holy grail there is a song written I think by Neil Innes that goes "we're knights of the Round Table, we dance when'ere we able, we do routines and chorus scenes whenever we are able". But I think it it would be absurd to retarget that way so probably delete it. Si Trew (talk) 03:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ahem. "We do routines and chorus scenes with footwork impecc-able"! Careful, Si. Can't you lose your British citizenship for that? --BDD (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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ILUMINATI

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The typo is plausible but there already is a lowercase version of it (Iluminati), so this one is not needed. It looks like there was not... I need more sleep. Still, it would be good if we deleted the uppercase version and created the lowercase one. The Traditionalist (talk) 01:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The stats tool is case insensitive, so it makes sense from that standpoint. -- Tavix (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Rotary Australia World Community Service

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:06, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the article and clearly non-notable. The Traditionalist (talk) 00:59, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Rotary Club of Shanghai

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is a passive mention in the article, but not sufficient for a redirect. The Traditionalist (talk) 00:56, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Rotary Club of North Bay, Ontario

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:00, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Albemarle County Democratic Committee case. The Traditionalist (talk) 00:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Their barbecue sauce is quite nice but their hotdogs are rubbish. Si Trew (talk) 07:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The second us president

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John Adams/Inaugural Speeech

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of the most laughable things I have ever encountered in Wikipedia. Enjoy. The Traditionalist (talk) 00:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I only just noticed but I am not sure the nominator did that there are three "e"s in Speeech. This makes it very rather implausible. Si Trew (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@SmokeyJoe: you should look up the First President's Initial Powerpoint Presentation. There is a graph that has countries going from zero to one. Four score and seven year's ago, we founded a new country (graph shows countries going from zero to one). It is a brilliant bit of humour, you should look it up. Si Trew (talk) 03:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you could help me look it up? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@SmokeyJoe: [[2]].mn I got it a bit wrong it is the Gettysburg Powerpoint Address. The point I was trying to make is whether you can really call anyone in the US the First President let alone the second, it depends on where you count it from. Si Trew (talk) 07:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Rich Farmbrough: What does harmful mean? I consider the appearance of such things when one browses the list of redirects to a page to be harmful...--The Traditionalist (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Vitreous (boss)

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Boing! said Zebedee. --BDD (talk) 13:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah so what is a vitreous boss someone who runs Pilkington Glass or what? Taken to [WP:CSD]], Si Trew (talk) 03:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Cool Dimension: Sexy Assassin

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, WP:G5, by Xaosflux (talk · contribs). (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 18:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An implausible redirect for Cool Dimension: Innocent Assassin. Also, I cannot find any reliable sources for this title except for IMDB, which is not a WP:RS. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Adams 2

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect could refer to many people (and things), not just John Adams. I would prefer it deleted, but, if we are going to retarget it, John Quincy Adams would be the primary contender, as he was the second Adams to be a U.S. President, while John was just the second U.S. President. The Traditionalist (talk) 00:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Book of Mudora

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 00:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blind the Thief

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 00:22, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm deliberately not looking at the target I think this is confusing. Blind he thief is a biblical / koranic expression isn't it?
Houseman in A Shropshire Lad has it thus
If by chance thine eye offend the
Cut it out man, and be whole
But be a man and go and end thee
If thine sickness is thy soul
I think a lot of these onese to Zelda are biblical/Koranic allusions but not quite right
My gran used to say
Before you complain about the dirt on someone else's glasses
Make sure it is not the dirt on your own
John Hegley
And that is an allusion to casting the mote I believe. Si Trew (talk) 08:12, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Arrghus

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that this is a boss in the The Legend of Zelda video game series that is not exclusive to the subject of the redirect's target and seems to be not mentioned there. With that being said, delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 00:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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