January 4

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 4, 2017.

Lord Raith, Monymaill and Balewarie

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Created presumably in error and good faith with a misspelling of "Balwearie"; the spelling has been corrected in the solitary link to this redirect, rendering it now redundant. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Anti-virus signature updates

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is from 2008, and it currently not linked at all. It's a far-fetched search term at best. I propose its deletion. --DanielPharos (talk) 23:02, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Gergely Sarkoezy

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Naziniger

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially offensive and very least likely to be searched for. Also not linked by one page. Created before deletion of its counterpart "Nazinigger" per 2006 RFD discussion. Same should go for this one. George Ho (talk) 21:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Other dimensions of the Discworld

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Steel1943 (talk) 14:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect's title is unclear what "dimensions" it is meant to exclude. Steel1943 (talk) 20:54, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Tubeway

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The result of the discussion was move target over the redirect. --BDD (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tubeway Army and Tubeway Army (album) receive more pageviews. --Nevéselbert 18:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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D'Israeli

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 18:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Per this move discussion, closing editor Bradv noted that there was not sufficient consensus for D'Israeli to redirect to Benjamin Disraeli, and hence further discussion was needed. I gave my rationale as to why I believe the British prime minister qualifies for a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT on the talkpage, tagging the redirect with ((R from alternative spelling)). --Nevéselbert 18:25, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Station1: I completely disagree with that assessment. The closer noted that further discussion may be required regarding where D'Israeli should point, and since it's a redirect, this is where that discussion needs to be. -- Tavix (talk) 20:02, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination statement in the move discussion recommended that D'Israeli redirect to Benjamin Disraeli, but some of the comments in the discussion wanted it to go to a disambiguation page instead. As I saw consensus for the first part of the nomination statement, and not the second part, I closed it as such and was as clear as I could be in my close. This is an appropriate place as any to discuss where the redirect D'Israeli should point. Bradv 20:34, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not as concerned about the exact location of a new discussion as I am about the fact that the participants in the original discussion might not be aware of it. D'Israeli was not a redirect until the extremely recent closure of the RM made it a redirect, and I'm not aware of other RM closures immediately being taken to RfD or similar forums. Although I completely recognize that this RfD was brought in good faith, to immediately start a discussion that could change the result of a RM in a forum where editors who opposed the move are less likely to participate, in order to get the result originally proposed at the RM, has the appearance of forum shopping, imo. Frankly, I think the close was flawed in that the closer stated that "there is no agreement on where the plain D'Israeli title should redirect - to D'Israeli (cartoonist), Benjamin Disraeli, or Disraeli (disambiguation)" but chose one anyway. If there was no agreement, the closer should not have changed the redirect; usually when there is no consensus the status quo prevails. Nevertheless, the result was not unreasonable, and it should stand, unless consensus to the contrary is reached among all interested editors. Station1 (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for any inconvenience Steel1943. I just thought, with the amount of keep votes, the chances of any other outcome were pretty much nill.--Nevéselbert 21:58, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Bushian

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The result of the discussion was retarget somewhere. Unfortunately, despite multiple relistings, there remains no obvious consensus about where that "somewhere" is. I could relist this again, but that's been tried three times already and this has now been open 2½ months so I'm unconvinced that that will help. So it seems to fall to me to see if I can extract anything useful from the comments. The options that are worth considering are the article Bush family or the disambiguations/set indexes Bush, Bush (surname) (a late suggestion by Ivanvector), George Bush or Presidency of George Bush. Deryck Chan did draft a set index article at this title, but that option was not well supported and would not be in accordance with the consensus to retarget it somewhere. A Wiktionary option was suggested by Steel1943 but Uanfala's comment that this would only be appropriate if there was no relevant articles on Wikipedia is persuasive, along with it being the first preference of no other commenter.
The "Presidency of George Bush" option was initially popular but with three commenters explicitly rescinding their !votes for this and comments by Ivanvector and BDD that it can refer to the policies, etc. of either or both George Bushes prior to their time as president I cannot conclude in favour of that target.
Several people commented, explicitly or implicitly, that the primary topic is one of the George Bushes and that most other times it is encountered with reference to other people it is qualified. Based on this I'm convinced that Bush and Bush (surname) should not be the target of this redirect. It is very unlikely though that this will refer to a use of "Bush" that is not a surname, based on standard English usage, and so if the target chosen requires a hatnote the surname set index page will be the better.
This leaves a choice between George Bush and Bush family. The latter has greater numerical support, and there is support for being too broad over too narrow - but on the other hand it is noted that the Georges are primary. Both Georges, and that they were president, are prominently mentioned in the lead of the family article while the family is only a see also at the end of the George Bush disambiguation. Putting this all together I think the best solution is to retarget to Bush family with a hatnote to Bush (surname). Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(pseudo-Neelix redirect) According to Oxford, this can refer also to the elder Bush [2], but I don't see this as a plausible search term. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 14:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to be awfully duplicative of the Presidency of George Bush disambiguation page. Why not just redirect it there? -- Tavix (talk) 21:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. Deryck C. 18:32, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've drafted a hatnote inside comments on Presidency of George Bush, to go live if this is closed as redirecting there. Deryck C. 15:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My thought was one of WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. I know that the term is used outside of the Bushes' presidencies, but I figured it would be unlikely to see the term used in another context besides their presidencies. I don't think the term is that vague, unless someone might be looking for Ian Bush, but I'll concede anyway. After thinking about it some more, I'd rather it redirect to somewhere too broad than too narrow. -- Tavix (talk) 20:12, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I can appreciate that someone is probably looking for a George Bush, but sometimes vague queries need vague answers. No wonder the term itself is only used once on Wikipedia. So anyone hoping for discussion of the term itself is bound for disappointment. --BDD (talk) 20:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • On a side note, I did find a few uses of this related to Kate Bush, but they were generally preceded by "Kate" and contained a dash.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:13, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 02:13, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: let's give this one more kick at the can. See further comments below.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:25, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think casting the net a bit wider to include other members of the bush family (especially Jeb) doesn't do any harm. A hatnote as you've described is a good idea for either of those two targets.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 03:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Dr mario series

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The result of the discussion was retarget to List of Mario puzzle games#Dr. Mario series. Thryduulf (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The target of the redirect is not a series article, and such an article doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 17:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added a hatnote to the List of Mario puzzle games. I think the Legacy section can be converted to a Sequel or series section. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Tetris: From Russia With Love

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 14#Tetris: From Russia With Love

TETIaIS

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Not sure what's going on with that "IaI" "Ia". From what I can see, it looks like Eubot translated "Я" as "IaI" "Ia" and I'm not sure why since I'm not familiar with Russian. Steel1943 (talk) 16:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Quinn (computer game)

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The result of the discussion was Delete. – Deleted by Patar knight, citing this discussion in their deletion notice. Steel1943 (talk) 20:23, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article's content; the subject of this redirect is only mentioned in the article as part of the title of a reference which is currently a dead link. Per the redirect's history as an article, it seems as though the subject of the redirect was an unofficial, unlicensed clone of the target subject. With this being said, the subject of the redirect would probably fail WP:NOTWIKIA as an article. Steel1943 (talk) 16:53, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Emlith

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Per searching this term on third-party search engines, the subject of the redirect seems to be some sort of unofficial video game clone of the subject of the redirect's target. Steel1943 (talk) 16:44, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Bastard tetris

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article. Per the edit history of this redirect, it seems as though the subject itself is a WP:NOTWIKIA violation. Steel1943 (talk) 16:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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2159 Kukkamaeki

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The result of the discussion was delete, unopposed. -- Tavix (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Asteroid named after a Finnish geodesist. ä and ae are not equivalent in Finnish, thus Kukkamaeki is not a valid substitution, as is visible also from its lack of google search results and lack of views. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Other vampires of Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 18:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect is unclear on what "vampires of Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter" it is meant to exclude. Steel1943 (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Other members of the Santangelo family

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is unclear on what members of "Santangelo family" it is meant to exclude. Steel1943 (talk) 15:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rose street fighter 4 character file

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like the title of the redirect is meant to refer to Rose (Street Fighter), but the redirect is quite an unlikely search term and could cause confusion due to the use of the word "file". Steel1943 (talk) 14:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Non Playable Characters in the Street Fighter series

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 13#List of Non Playable Characters in the Street Fighter series

List of most viewed kpop music videos

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 13#List of most viewed kpop music videos

Redirects implying Bush's direct involvement on 9/11

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 16#Redirects implying Bush's direct involvement on 9/11

Wikipedia:PUMPRIME

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The result of the discussion was keep (non-admin closure) Uanfala (talk) 10:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as implausible misspelling with no incoming links except its own listing as a shortcut. Mihirpmehta (talk) 06:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Anni Sinnemaeki

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That's hot

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The result of the discussion was keep That's hot; retarget That's Hot to Paris Hilton. -- Tavix (talk) 15:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This has been created as a redirect to Paris Hilton over and over, and it was deleted twice or thrice until re-creation. I converted That's Hot from a redirect to another target into a dabpage. If "that's hot" can't be deleted, then it should be redirected to the now-converted dabpage. George Ho (talk) 05:27, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why not turning it into an article, AngusWOOF? George Ho (talk) 22:51, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Almost forgot: "that's hot" is not mentioned in the "Paris Hilton" article. George Ho (talk) 23:29, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you have enough info to make it into an article about the catchphrase, along with first usage and trademark, and its related lawsuits, legacy, then go for it. I don't see it as a disambiguation though as the non-primary topic entries are not notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 02:24, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to create Draft:That's hot, but that would be forking. Like one or two draft pages that I struggled to improve, the page would be rejected over and over. I left a note at Talk:Paris Hilton, asking whether adding back the catchphrase in Hilton is okay. George Ho (talk) 02:51, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
George Ho, no one seems to have objected on Paris Hilton's talk page, so I think you have licence to go ahead and reintroduce the catchphrase into the article. – Uanfala (talk) 22:08, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Paint chips

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Espeize-Unduereine

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 16:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Cloning of the (valid) redirect Espeize-Ündüreine. (Espeize-Undureine, also an eubot creation, is the proper no-diacritics form) Basque, not German, so ü isn't actually an umlaut here and thus not transliterated as ue as far as I know. Even if it was, though, the redirect title is inconsistent as it simultaneously uses 'plain' U for Ü. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:13, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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