March 29

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 29, 2023.

First President of the United States

• First President of the United States → George Washington  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Propose retarget to Presidency of George Washington.

Reason: while readers might be interested in George Washington, I think the title is more related to his presidency. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 15:08, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, people looking/searching for "First President of the United States" would probaby expect to be directed to the biographical article on the person. Drdpw (talk) 15:25, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PRussian invasion of Ukraine

• PRussian invasion of Ukraine → Russian invasion of Ukraine  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This redirect is misleading, as Prussian is a redirect to Prussia which itself was involved in historic conflicts with political entities in the Ukraine. Mvqr (talk) 13:15, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst this might be a typo, yes it seems odd. I agree this needs deleting. Slatersteven (talk) 13:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Implausible typo, completely changes the meaning. Unless there's a relevant diambig it could direct to instead that involves conflicts between Prussia and Ukrainian entities. — Czello 13:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: The meaning is different when referring to Prussian vs Russia. The capitalization would of "PR" would also make it unnecessary. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I suggested R3 on the article's talk page to save editor time, but since we're here now, let's just handle it here. There is the obvious issue that Prussia is a historical entity and thus should not be confused with Russia. There is further the implausibility of Prussia arising as a simple typo in place of Russia as the r key and the p key are on opposite ends of the qwerty keyboard layout. I suppose now's my chance to say that we don't need to create a whole qwertyuiop's worth of redirects to address every possible typo. Mr rnddude (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as creator. There is no article called "Prussian invasion of Ukraine". It is a plausible typo of someone accidently hitting the p key. With an article with a total 50 million views (including redirects), probably hundreds have made this typo. Also, WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP. I doubt anyone who types PRussian invasion of Ukraine by accident means to go anywhere but the Russian Invasion of Ukraine page. @Hey man im josh @Mvqr @Czello @Slatersteven Starship 24 (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really that plausible given the positions of the keys on the keyboard? Should we have "ERussian invasion of Ukraine" as well if we're basing it strictly on keys accidently being hit? Even if it were, I'd still vote delete based on the capitalization. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The capitalization is more likely than not @Hey man im josh I do agree that ERussian Invasion of UKraine should be a redirect @Hey man im josh Starship 24 (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Why is the typo plausible (when the P and R keys are not near each other on the keyboard)? Why not have a LRussian Invasion of Ukraine, or ORussian Invasion of Ukraine, or MRussian Invasion of Ukraine? — Czello 14:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Implausible typo and potentially misleading given the history of Prussia. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Whether a DAB or redirect for Prussian invasion of Ukraine if it were to exist, in my view is outside of the purview of this RfD. The capital PR make it relatively unlikely for someone trying to target things about historical Prussia, but also the confusion with Prussia makes the redirect itself not WP:CHEAP as it's an ambiguous and relatively unlikely typo in my view. TartarTorte 14:57, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shah Reza Pahlavi

• Shah Reza Pahlavi → Mohammad Reza Pahlavi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Reza Shah because the words "Shah Reza Pahlavi" has greater affinity to him. NotReallySoroka (talk) 11:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:ANI AUTISM IP

• Wikipedia:ANI AUTISM IP → Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive779#Persistent dynamic IP at Talk:Autism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

0 page views most years, most views likely accidental search hits. Clutters WP namespace, title improper. Opal|zukor^(discuss) 09:01, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Starship 24 (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kv bhu

• Kv bhu → Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target page. Could be a short form of KV Bhutan. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:09, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ferdinand I of Spain

• Ferdinand I of Spain → Ferdinand II of Aragon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This should be a disambiguation between Ferdinand I of Castile and Ferdinand I of Aragon, or should outright be deleted. While Ferdinand II of Aragon was the first Ferdinand to rule a (mostly) united Spain, he wasn't numbered as Ferdinand I. This is evidenced by the fact that the next Ferdinand to rule Spain was Ferdinand VI of Spain. This redirect feels extra strange considering that Ferdinand V of Spain also redirects to the same place. Estar8806 (talk) 02:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Primus sucks

• Primus sucks → Primus (band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This appears to be a very unlikely search term. Not mentioned at target. I propose deletion. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 00:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What are you trying to accomplish? -- C. A. Russell (talk) 00:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am attempting to have an unlikely search term not mentioned at the target page discussed by the community. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 01:00, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have not proposed a discussion. You have proposed a deletion. Your response to my question is hard to read and harder to understand. Again: what are you trying to accomplish? Please be specific. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 01:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@C. A. Russell The nom clearly proposed deletion, so I bet they would like to accomplish the deletion of that redirect. NotReallySoroka (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, obviously. That's not an especially helpful remark. It shouldn't be this difficult to get a coherent response to what is being asked.

The redirect has been proposed for deletion. By doing so—deleting the redirect named here (Primus sucks)—can you please state clearly: what are you trying to accomplish? -- C. A. Russell (talk) 01:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. It looks a bit like G10 to me, for what it's worth. NotReallySoroka (talk) 01:41, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's not, and it wasn't when User:HighInBC deleted it while citing that reason in 2015, either. [1] -- C. A. Russell (talk) 01:55, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the redirect deserved to be G10'ed is subjective, although I do believe that HighInBC made the right call. However, the fact that you re-created the redirect unilaterally, when it is credible to say that the redirect disparages the band, is objectively inadvisable.

I admit that I erred in attempting to G4 your page (though I have then voluntarily reversed my action), but just because your page cannot be G4'ed doesn't mean that your action was advisable. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have no idea what you're talking about ("the redirect disparages the band"). It's not subjective. G10 has no relevance to this redirect. The only way to get there is from the mindset of someone pattern matching on "<X> sucks" and concluding, erroneously, that it has something to do with attacking X.

Please spend less time slipping foregone conclusions into your responses here. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 04:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep it's a term of endearment by fans encouraged by the band: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/does-primus-really-suck-249254/ Primus bassist, vocalist and all-around figurehead Les Claypool explains that in the band’s early days, “We’d just get up there and say, ‘We’re Primus, and we suck.’ And it kind of caught on.” The band helped it along with PRIMUS SUCKS T-shirts adorned with various things that suck, such as a vacuum cleaner or a baby with a bottle. “I think it’s the greatest thing, myself,” says Claypool. It probably should be mentioned in the article but that isn't a hard and fast rule if it's a commonly enough related to the target, which this is. Skynxnex (talk) 12:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Based on Skynxnex's comment. Would however definitely prefer that it be mentioned in the article so people don't get the wrong idea. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as an implausible search term. G10 does not apply, but since when did we start redirecting company slogans to their own articles? Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 15:10, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shah Pahlavi

• Shah Pahlavi → Reza Shah  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I propose we disambiguate this redirect because in addition to Reza Shah Pahlavi, these words can also refer to his son, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. NotReallySoroka (talk) 00:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Sounds good to me. Nv8200pa talk 00:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support disambiguation - It could even be reasonable to redirect to the younger shah, considering he is often simply known as "the Shah" and by far a primary topic. Estar8806 (talk) 02:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Pahlavi dynasty#Heads of House of Pahlavi: Both of the Pahlavis to hold the title Shah are listed with some context TartarTorte 13:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]